Dollhouse: Man on the Street. Do you think it delivered?

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RHYIANAN

Monday, March 23, 2009 9:23 PM

Honestly, I don't know why everyone thinks that there is a mole. My read on the situation is that Echo was sent by Dewitt to do exactly what she did...convince Ballard to do things more quietly and misdirect him, eventually tipping him off to the attack on Mellie, which will be another thing that will get him to stop being as vocal. I see Echo taking over the role that Victor had played, giving Ballard fake information that he'll take as being credible. I may be wrong (Joss does tend to pull things out of nowhere), but that's the way things seemed to be put out in a rather straightforward fashion.

Also, Dewitt knows that Echo's remembering things, which could lead to her having a composite event like Alpha, but there didn't seem to be much of a reaction to the knowledge. I can't tell you how glad I am that the formulaic "Echo knows something" wasn't repeated. The first time it happened was a holy crap moment (shoulder to the wheel), but every time after that was a bit tedious. This one, while demonstrating that she knows something she shouldn't, was more natural and brings up the fact that Dewitt is aware that she remembers, which may have interesting consequences.

I'm a leaf on the wind

KHAMBILO

Monday, March 23, 2009 10:19 PM

yeah. Adelle, from previous episodes, has shown us that she would be very put off if something like Alpha were to happen again.

Yet throughout "Man in the Street" her behavior is irrational. She sends a rogue handler to take a Doll and then interrupts it by activating some imbedded killing skills in Mellie. Thus we have a dead ex-handler in a FBI agent's apartment with a Doll. It's Irractional for her to make that decision.

And at the end she knows that Echo remembers.

My thoughts: Adelle is aware in the imperfections of Dollhouse. However with the reveal of multiple dollhouses, it is my belief the Adelle is seeking to make her Dollhouse independent. Echo may be the key to doing this. I don't think she's in on it with Alpha, but she knows Alpha and is using his anger and his particular fixation with Echo to achieve her own ends.

One thing is sure though: There is is most definately more to Adelle than meets the eye.

BYTEMITE

Monday, March 23, 2009 10:28 PM

Actually, the "Echo remembers something" moment was repeated. The picture she was painting was the house of the internet mogul.

DMI

Monday, March 23, 2009 11:25 PM

Definitely the best Dollhouse episode yet. Just got around to seeing it last night because I watched the Battlestar finale (a great end to one of the greatest scifi shows of all time) on friday night.

Dollhouse doesn't compare to shows like Firefly, Battlestar, or the better Trek eps yet but, this was a huge step in the right direction and after the solid performance from the week before that, I'd say the show has hit it's stride. As for mole theories, I think its the lady at the top, the one in charge with the accent. She seemed a little bit worried when the rapist brought up how they're in the business of using people and if someone is sucked in and can't get out, it's her.
-e

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RHYIANAN

Monday, March 23, 2009 11:43 PM

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Originally posted by Bytemite:
Actually, the "Echo remembers something" moment was repeated. The picture she was painting was the house of the internet mogul.

Yes, but it was handled differently than just throwing it out there at the end of the episode, using it for the shock value that after the first time, ceases to be a shock. That is what I meant. It is apparent that she remembers, referring to the uncompleted engagement when she says "it's not finished", as Dewitt notices.

It was the treatment of the remembering that I was referring to when I said "Echo remembers something" moment, not that she doesn't remember anything at the end of the episode, which is why I used the word formulaic at the beginning of the phrase.

I'm a leaf on the wind

BYTEMITE

Monday, March 23, 2009 11:45 PM

Whoa, wait, are you saying that last sequence was DeWitt sending her back?

That did not occur to me. o.o

SHINYGOODGUY

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 7:04 AM

Yep, I think so. Remember at the beginning in the tape of Caroline, she keeps saying how she wants to make a difference. Well, I think that's coming through in Echo's behavior. For some reason DeWitt admires that quality (her adaptability and her wanting to make a difference I mean) in Echo and she sent her back.

Echo also helped Sierra by alerting Boyd to the fact that she would cry in her pod. I think that DeWitt could very well be that mole on the inside that is looking to bring down the DH. For one thing she's keeping him alive. Second, I believe she sent that message (through Echo) for him to keep away, for now.

Someone on this thread mentioned the phone message to the sleeper active in Ballard's apt. Remember he is being monitored by DeWitt, I'm sure that she has the technology available to her that will keep her voice from being recorded.

Like I said, this is getting good.

SGG

Tawabawho?

RHYIANAN

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 11:14 AM

Yes, the last sequence is Dewitt sending her back. Echo says that it isn't finished, then Dewitt asks her if she wants it to be finished, both referring to the uncompleted engagement. When Echo repeats that it isn't finished, she is indicating that it needs to be, at least in her own mind, so Dewitt sends her back.

I'm a leaf on the wind

ZEEK

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:40 PM

Isn't Millie in her apartment when she gets attacked? Why do people keep saying she's in Ballard's apartment? I don't think the answering machine is much of a problem. If it's Millie's apartment then the answering machine could be designed to auto delete messages from Dewitt or Millie could just be programmed to delete them herself. If it's Ballard's apartment then that's a little different.

I'll have to go back and look for details of which apartment she's in at some point.

Even if Dewitt isn't the mole there's still something going on with her and Ballard. Why would she leave him alive? Before I wanted to say that killing the FBI agent investigating the Dollhouse might only serve to increase the FBI's interest in the case. Now that he's off the case there's no real reason to leave him alive.

PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, March 24, 2009 2:54 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
if you can program a Doll then you can program one to mess with programming when you're out of the room.

That still leaves the problem of initial programming. Everything (or nearly everything) is monitored in the Dollhouse. Illicit programs can't be a simple thing to sneak.

I can agree the theory that there is no mole and it's just Ballard being messed with is a sound one, but that seems so much less interesting to me. Kind of a let down. Though, it is Joss, and he's made a lot of things palatable that I might not have been able to stomach in less skilled hands.

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Isn't Millie in her apartment when she gets attacked? Why do people keep saying she's in Ballard's apartment?

Because she'd just gotten it on with Ballard in his apartment, and was wandering around his apartment in nothing but one of his shirts waiting for him to get back with spring rolls so they could eat and go over his case files, also presumably located in his apartment, and Mellie is being thrown around a distinctly masculine decor of his apartment. Oh, and when the answering machine picks up it's Ballard's voice that says "Leave a message."

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