SF films that make you go 'Umm...what?'
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Monday, March 23, 2009 16:54
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Dreamtrove:
That's what makes killing Newt in Alien3 the dumbest move by another director who is not as clever as he thinks he is, in spite of one clever success, and 7, or was it 5, which is probably the most predictable piece of torture porn I've seen...
A few things to think about.
1. David Fincher did not write Alien 3. To my knowledge, he hasn't written any of his own films, and therefore it is rarely a director's fault if something like that happens, not to mention this was Fincher's first film, and so he would've had very little to no creative control.
2. David Fincher agrees with you. He has stated on many occasions that he hates Alien3, doesn't like to watch it, and doesn't like to talk about it, because it was such a horrible experience for him. He disowned the film, and actually walked out on it before editing even began. He also had nothing to do with the Director's Cut, as he thought the film was unsalvageable.
3. Alien3 was such a horrible experience because of studio interference. Guess who the studio was.
4. You may not have liked Seven, but a lot of people did. And it wasn't torture porn. Hostel is torture porn. Seven was just a dark, gritty and violent thriller.
And here, some more Trivia from IMDB's Aliens3 page:
-On the set at Pinewood Studios, a giant lead foundry took 12 weeks to construct and put the production way behind. Even with 6 day weeks and 14 hour days, the crew were unable to keep up with the schedule.
-The production effectively shut down for three months while the script was undergoing rewrites.
-The film spent over a year in editing.
-When the powers-that-be decided on a new ending to be shot, Elliot Goldenthal had one night to come up with a new score.
-$7 million had been spent on sets that were never used thanks to the ever-changing script before filming had even started.
-At one point, David Fincher was denied permission by the film's producers to shoot a crucial scene in the prison understructure between Ripley and the alien. Against orders, Fincher grabbed Sigourney Weaver, a camera and shot the scene anyway. This scene appears in the final cut.
I know I went on a bit, but I've enjoyed all of the Fincher films I've seen thus far (I haven't seen Alien 3 and don't plan to.) and I just wanted to make a point.
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Quote:Now thata a cool movie. Danny Boyle can do no wrong in my eyes
Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Three DEFINITELY weird-ass ones.
Originally posted by 22Claws:
I just finished Sunshine. It was pretty wacky. Also, I'll say Event Horizen and The Black Hole
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Event Horizon was one I desperately wanted to like, but in the end: FAIL!
I feel the same. But I will say this, and I thought it was cool:
4 years after seeing that movie, I discovered that the writer of the film was a Warhammer 40K player. He had the idea for the Event Horizon script after a 40k game when he asked himself: "Humanity uses the Warp to travel from star system to star system in the 40k universe. But what happened thousands of years prior to 40k when humanity 1st discovered the warp?" Warp travel in 40k results when ships punch a hole from reality to Chaos Warp and use shield tech to protect ships from Chaos Hellspace when travel occurs. Humans discovering the warp on Old Terra would not have known that shields would have been needed and would have tried to travel without them. The result is that the experimental run from Neptune to Proxima Centuri was instead a trip from Neptune to Chaos Hellspace. Opps.
You'd need to be a tabletop gamer to even know what I'm talking about, and few on this site are going to be. But if you ever played 40k and know about Chaos and the Warp, you'll understand.
Learning that put a whole new lens on Event Horizon. I raised my grade of it from a C to a B-. I always like seeing 2 seperate mythos' come together like that. Like when I was a kid and we all got excited in Predator 2 when the Alien skull was on a wall in the ship. "You mean that the Alien mythos and the Predator mythos are the SAME?" In 1990 it was a shocker. Now Alien vs. Predator stuff abounds.
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That movie where juliet lewis sings naked, 1999?
Strange Days?
Kind of an odd sci-fi...
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Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Urotsukidôjii - the legend of the overfiend
Holy cow. I can't believe someone on here even knows about that one. I recall that it sat on a video store shelf for years in my hometown with a "Must be 17 to rent" sticker on it. It had it's own corner of a forgotten shelf in a rarely walked section of the store. Years of sunrises had shed light on the box, fading the color and aging the cardboard. "What could this be?" I'd wonder to myself. What is this forbidden animated film that sits forgotten in a corner? How can an animated film be forbidden? Of course those were the days when I hadn't seen any anime past playing Phanstasy Star II on Sega and had never even heard the word Hentai.
I turned 17 and rented it.
OK well.....To describe the experience I'd harken to the south Park episode when the kids are playing Lord of the Rings and have the 18+ video (Saurons Ring proxy) and Token volunteers to watch it. He goes inside...insert 1 minute pause...comes out and says "I'm not Playing anymore"
Yes indeed. That was my exact experience with Urotsukidojii. Innocence stripped away in 2 hours 20 minutes.
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Originally posted by bluesuncompanyman:Quote:
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Urotsukidôjii - the legend of the overfiend
Holy cow. I can't believe someone on here even knows about that one. I recall that it sat on a video store shelf for years in my hometown with a "Must be 17 to rent" sticker on it. It had it's own corner of a forgotten shelf in a rarely walked section of the store. Years of sunrises had shed light on the box, fading the color and aging the cardboard. "What could this be?" I'd wonder to myself. What is this forbidden animated film that sits forgotten in a corner? How can an animated film be forbidden? Of course those were the days when I hadn't seen any anime past playing Phanstasy Star II on Sega and had never even heard the word Hentai.
I turned 17 and rented it.
OK well.....To describe the experience I'd harken to the south Park episode when the kids are playing Lord of the Rings and have the 18+ video (Sarons Ring proxy) and Token volunteers to watch it. He goes inside...insert 1 minute pause...comes out and says "I'm not Playing anymore"
Yes indeed. That was my exact experience with Urotsukidojii. Innocence stripped away in 2 hours 20 minutes.
Jeez you lasted the full 2hrs 20! I gave up after just about 30mins. Dreadful thing was I bought it for my sister in law as she said she liked Japanese animation. We all sat there, my brother included, and... well we were aghast at what was presented before us. It's not really a film - it's more like a series of lovingly animated perversions. Quite who loves to animate such things is anyones guess. I just felt so bad because I bought it as a gift. I've been redeeming myself ever since by overloading on Gibli studio animation instead! She's fond of that style of Japanese animation.
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Quote:Journey To The Far Side Of The Sun, as close as Gerry & Sylvia Anderson ever got to 2001-style greatness in the WTF category.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
list of movies that just wander off into space.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:Me too. Animated sex I can deal with, but THAT was torture porn IMO.
Originally posted by TheSomnambulist:
Jeez you lasted the full 2hrs 20! I gave up after just about 30mins.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Quote:AVP: Requiem was pretty good, though. At least I thought it was. It was no "Aliens," but worth a rental.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I didn't see AVP because everyone said it sucked.
The laughing Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:AVP: Requiem was pretty good, though. At least I thought it was. It was no "Aliens," but worth a rental.
Originally posted by dreamtrove:
I didn't see AVP because everyone said it sucked.
The laughing Chrisisall
I was so saddend by AVP that I'm staying well clear of anything claiming to be it's sequel.
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