Pope smacks down Princess Pelosi

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AURAPTOR

Thursday, February 19, 2009 4:50 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/02/18/pelosi-pope-meeting-minds/U
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House Speaker Nancy Pelosi met Pope Benedict XVI at the Vatican Wednesday morning, but may not have had a meeting of the minds if the two statements from their offices are any indication.

No journalists were at the 15-minute encounter and the Vatican and the speaker's offices have not released any photos. However, according to their statements it appears the pope and the politician attended two different get-togethers.

"His Holiness took the opportunity to speak of the requirements of the natural moral law and the Church's consistent teaching on the dignity of human life from conception to natural death which enjoins all Catholics, and especially legislators, jurists and those responsible for the common good of society, to work in cooperation with all men and women of good will in creating a just system of laws capable of protecting human life at all stages of its development," the Vatican wrote, having released the statement moments before the two met.

Several hours later, Pelosi's office gave her take on the tete-a-tete.

"It is with great joy that my husband, Paul, and I met with his Holiness, Pope Benedict XVI today," Pelosi said in a statement released hours after the meeting. "In our conversation, I had the opportunity to praise the Church's leadership in fighting poverty, hunger and global warming, as well as the Holy Father's dedication to religious freedom and his upcoming trip and message to Israel. I was proud to show his Holiness a photograph of my family's papal visit in the 1950s, as well as a recent picture of our children and grandchildren."

The pontiff has a long history of urging Catholic politicians to toe the line on abortion, and has said that those who don't shouldn't take communion. Pelosi supports abortion rights and says she's never been denied communion at her church in San Francisco.

In 2002, the Vatican issued a doctrinal note on "The Participation of Catholics in Political Life," which states rather succinctly that politicians who profess to be Catholic have a "grave and clear obligation" to oppose any law that attacks human life.

That note was approved by John Paul II but signed by none other than Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger. He's now the pope.

The speaker does not share that belief, and even got into a verbal slugfest with American bishops last August after her statements on a news program about the Church's view of when life begins.

"I would say that as an ardent, practicing Catholic, this is an issue that I have studied for a long time. And what I know is, over the centuries, the doctors of the church have not been able to make that definition. And St. Augustine said at three months, we don't know. The point is, is that it shouldn't have an impact on the woman's right to choose," she said at the time on NBC's "Meet the Press."

She then added that the Church has only held the view for 50 years or so that life begins at conception. The remarks earned her widespread corrections by Catholic clerics.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

ELVISCHRIST

Thursday, February 19, 2009 5:57 PM

So tell me again why I should care what Pope Hitler Youth has to say about, well, anything?

WULFENSTAR

Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:03 PM

"So tell me again why I should care what Pope Hitler Youth has to say about, well, anything?"

Lol Obviously you know nothing of Nazi Germany, or their indoctrination of children. Being a "Hitler Youth" was not the choice of most kids, but they were forced (under threat of death) to join.

So yeah, he was in the Hitler Youth. But he got out of it, became a priest and then Pope. Give the guy some credit. He pulled his life completely around.

AND he hasnt been a bad Pope as far as I can tell. Except for looking creepy, I mean.

Btw, Im not Catholic, Im just saying is all.

AURAPTOR

Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by ElvisChrist:
So tell me again why I should care what Pope Hitler Youth has to say about, well, anything?

If you don't care, then why the hell are you even replying ?

Think about it.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

CHRISISALL

Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:02 PM

RAp, I take YOU more seriously than I take the Pope.

Think about it.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

AURAPTOR

Thursday, February 19, 2009 7:20 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
RAp, I take YOU more seriously than I take the Pope.

Think about it.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

The Pope DOES wear much finer hats, I'll give him that.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

A concern of the GOP is that the people aren't informed enough to understand their policies, while a fear of the Dems is that the people ARE.

WASHNWEAR

Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:34 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Quote:
Originally posted by chrisisall:
RAp, I take YOU more seriously than I take the Pope.

Think about it.

"Thanks." -Hero, 2009

The laughing Chrisisall

The Pope DOES wear much finer hats, I'll give him that.

Which raises a question I've been rasslin' with for a couple years now: What is the next level of hat after 'cunning'?

And ran across this (I imagine it's been run across here before):

http://alison.caffeinatedbliss.com/knit/jaynehat.php

It was like that when we got here!

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:39 PM

Somehow I have a little trouble having much respect for that particular office.
The 5 Biggest Badass Popes
http://www.cracked.com/article_15648_five-biggest-badass-popes.html

And as for the Hitler Youth thing, frankly, if he was unwilling to die for his convictions, then what does that say about his piety ?

Conversely, those who have fallen the lowest, and come back from the brink are often the most humane and understanding, so you can argue that one either way and still have a point.

Me, I'm not Catholic, what they believe, or wanna believe, is up to them, and so long as they don't try to push it on me (which they got a damn bad habit of doing!) then more power to em.

Tis when they push that I get the idea to push back.
HARD.

-F

RUE

Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:43 PM

The poor Pope. He can't make the overwhelmingly RC Italian Parliament do what he wants, so he has to try to run the US through one itty-bitty Pelosi. Sad, really. And just a little demented.

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Silence is consent.

FREMDFIRMA

Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:52 PM

Him ? Pelosi ? or Both ?
*channels Wash*
I vote both, can we have both ?

-F

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