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The Office of the President deserves RESPECT!!! Except, y'know, not NOW that Obama is in....

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UPDATED: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 13:24
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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by dreamtrove:
Mike, not you too?



Relax a bit, Dream; I'm just pokin' the monkey in the cage...

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:06 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
And just look at how much time you're spending defending racism - all because a black person said it, so that makes it okay for a hateful junkie right-wing radio dickhead to spew it!

As always, AuRetard, you have no case. And, as I have every time before, I win, you lose, now go back to fucking your sister, white trash.

Mike

"It is complete now; the hands of time are neatly tied."



I'm not defending racism, in the least. That's where you are wrong, and that's why you're a fucking moron.

Clearly, I win, you lose.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Meanwhile... In Rappy-Land:


I wouldn't mind, but he's just parroting things said to him. He's so dim witted he can't even come up with his own insults.




I don't have to. You are your own insult. Thanks ever so much.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:12 PM

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Originally posted by AURaptor:
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I don't have to. You are your own insult. Thanks ever so much.


Seriously, that's the best you could do? Even that's half ripped off of something I said to you earlier. I'd say come up with you're own material, but you're clearly not smart enough.

No wonder you have to get all your opinions from the Republican party website.



More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.

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Wednesday, February 4, 2009 11:13 PM

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because , to you, the ends justifies the means.
Was it you, rapo, who once said it was OK for a President to lie to the public in order to get the "right" result? Maybe I'm mis-remembering.... Coulda sworn it was you tho.

In any case, thread subject: A President is due as much respect as he earns. Hate to quote Spiderman but... "With great power comes great reponsibility". Although I thought the 2000 election was a fraud, I was willing to give Bush a chance. I started to get turned off when the very first thing Cheney did was hold secret energy meetings and then shielded the information under "executive privilege". (Didn't care for it when Hillary did that with health care, either.) But nothing really horrible happened until 9-11.... and then all hell broke loose. The Patriot Act. The tax cuts. Afghanistan. Iraq. Medicare Rx benefits (for the pharmas). Media consolidation. Katrina. Attempted Social Security privatization. Overlooked unfair trade with China. Corruption. The SEC asleep at the switch, turning over the Fed to Goldman Sachs. Unitary Executive.

The man has been an unmitigated disaster throughout his tenure in virtually all areas of governance. Sure, he couldn't do this "all by himself"- he had help from all Repubs and many Dems as well- but "the decider" sets the tone. And history will remember George W the same as it remembers Gorbachev: the beginning of the end.

AFA Obama... again, it depends on what he does. First of all, he's got a lot dubya's shit to shovel. And the Repubs, after 8 years tinkle-on economics and deregulation, STILL cannot admit it's a failed policy. So I'll wait and see how well he shovels the shit that dubya created, and right now it's too early to say.

But I like the open-ness of his administration, and the new intepretation of FOIA requests:
FROM AGENCY INSIDERS:
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Dear Supporter:

As President Obama forms his administration, there have been many encouraging signs such as his January 21st order to all agencies that the "Freedom of Information Act should be administered with a clear presumption: In the face of doubt, openness prevails."

PEER is now engaged in FOIA lawsuits to uncover:
Health and safety dangers facing Interior Department employees working inside the headquarters building even as it is being reconstructed;
Deep corruption within the U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service law enforcement program, including trafficking in illegal trophies; and
Environmental violations by the Corps in the post-Katrina clean-up.

We are about to find out if the Obama order is being followed as these are our other FOIA suits are resolved. We are also filing a flotilla of new FOIA requests on a wide range of topics suggested by agency insiders; we will let you know if the sun is really shining through.

Busily yours,

P.S. On other fronts, we believe that the Obama EPA has put the kibosh on huge allowed increases in public radiation exposure levels following a nuclear accident or "dirty bomb attack" - just another lovely parting gift from the Bush crowd.
P.P.S. It is also unclear whether agency scientists will actually enjoy new protections or whether prior scientific manipulations will be corrected - or when.



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Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:13 AM

Anyone who compares the Bush tax cuts to 9/11, or calls them " horrible", ain't playin' with a full deck.

Otherwise...

Afghanistan ( Well, that was kinda necessary, after the 9/11 thing )
Iraq ( Very questionable act, I'll grant that ) Medicare Rx benefits ( Pretty poor choice, I must agree).
Media consolidation (Not the President's issue )
Katrina( Bush gets far too much criticism Attempted Social Security privatization ( Not attempted nearly hard enough. Needs to be done away with, imo )
Overlooked unfair trade with China. ( Yeah, what President won't ? )
Corruption ( Never proven, but always talked about )
The SEC asleep at the switch ( Oh yeah it was ! )

You forgot FARM AID , which was more aid to BIG AGRA and not enough ( any ) help to small family farms.
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Comprehensive Illegal Alien Act, which was a disaster.



It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:18 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:

Seriously, that's the best you could do? Even that's half ripped off of something I said to you earlier.







It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager


" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:37 AM

Well, that was fun

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Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:41 AM

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Afghanistan ( Well, that was kinda necessary, after the 9/11 thing )
Yeah, too bad it was interrupted by....
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Iraq ( Very questionable act, I'll grant that )
At least we agree on that! Let's have a beer!
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Medicare Rx benefits ( Pretty poor choice, I must agree).
Let's have another! The poor sod who had to calculate the cost wound up sneaking the ACTUAL calculations thru a transom because he was told not to exceed 400 billion. So, in the Bush admin, not only did politcs trump science, it also trupmed basic accounting. www.barkbarkwoofwoof.com/2004/03/over-transom.html
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Media consolidation (Not the President's issue )
Yes, it is. The FCC write the rules about who is able to own what, and the chair - Michael Powell (Colin's son)- pushed, and pushed HARD- for a change in rules that would allow consolidation. This is DEFINITELY an admin's bailiwick.
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Katrina( Bush gets far too much criticism
There's enough to go all the way around, but that includes Bush.
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Attempted Social Security privatization ( Not attempted nearly hard enough. Needs to be done away with, imo )
So that our retirement funds could go the way of the housing bubble? Thanks, but no thanks!
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Overlooked unfair trade with China. ( Yeah, what President won't ? )
Good question.
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Corruption ( Never proven, but always talked about )
We'll see if it ever gets investigated. The difference between Obama and Bush? With Obama, you know what's going on.
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The SEC asleep at the switch ( Oh yeah it was ! )
From allowing an increase in leveraged investments at back (prompted by none other than than "Hank" Paulson, who was then chair of Goldman Sachs) to sleeping thru Enron and Madoff... Meanwhile, all those poor corporations crying that Sarbanes-Oxley was "too strict"....! Serious *ss needs to be kicked!
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You forgot FARM AID , which was more aid to BIG AGRA and not enough ( any ) help to small family farms.
Hey! Let's have another beer!
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Comprehensive Illegal Alien Act, which was a disaster.
ANOTHER TOAST TO AGREEMENT!


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Thursday, February 5, 2009 1:55 AM

Eh, I can't let this thread end on 69 posts. It's just not nice.

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