What has the Internet unleashed?

POSTED BY: emeraldtiara
UPDATED: Thursday, January 29, 2009 08:40
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EMERALDTIARA

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:20 PM

I don't know, I just read this and felt it had to be posted. Bear in mind I don't agree with it at all, I actually find it hilarious.

http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html?thread=135326#t13532
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STORYMARK

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 8:29 PM

Porn, mostly.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

SOMAHOLIDAY

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:52 PM

you know, i tried to read through this so I could formulate a good reply. I had to stop halfway through, as I wasn't sure whether I was going to throw up, start laughing, or go insane. This has to be the most nit-picky and most thoroughly ridiculous interpretation of anything I've ever seen. Good lord.

SOMAHOLIDAY

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:58 PM

Ok I just finished it, and let me just say that I thought the last point she made, about Wash and Zoe, was not only half-cocked and insane, but pretty racist to boot. Ahh yes, a white man is dating a black woman. Obviously, he's a rapist and an abuser. Let's all sit back for a minute and picture WASH, of all people, as a rapist and an abuser. COME ON!!! I, personally, have known people in a mixed-racial relationship that worked great, and even if I hadn't, that WOULD NOT clear me to make comments like, oh well obviously no mixed-race relationship would EVER work. Bleh. Idiot.

CHRISISALL

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:04 PM

OMG what a take on it.
As a man in a women's world I see Serenity as degrading to men, myself. See how Inara spins the Cap'n all about? See how River kills only MALE Reavers? See how Zoe makes fun of Jayne?

It's disgraceful, says I.

The laughing Chrisisall

STORYMARK

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:22 PM

Wow. Having now read it all...wow. That is a woman with some serious issues. I like how she says Wash must be an abuser rapist, because her uncle was one....

Psycho.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

BYTEMITE

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:44 PM

Not to defend her, because I have read that exact same rant accusing Firefly of sexism and racism and thought it a little coo-coo myself...

But my impression has been that she's talking more about the social difficulties and implications of relationships IN MODERN TIMES between white men and black women than about interacial couples in general.

No, white men in modern times (and definitely not in the far future of Firefly with all the cultural mixing) who date/marry black women are NOT rapists. I don't think that's what she's saying, either.

What is fact is that in modern times, black women are statistically less likely than any other group to date or marry outside of their own ethnicity, and black women to white men is the very LOWEST percentage.

And there's kind of a reason for that, if my college diversity classes are to be believed... Okay, this is going to be some twisted thinking here. Just a forewarning.

But white slave owners did rape black women, and what I was taught is that historical fact has some effect on black women today being wary of becoming involved with white men.

*Shrug*

YINYANG

Tuesday, January 27, 2009 11:52 PM

I know I've seen this somewhere before...

http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=33159
http://www.fireflyfans.net/mthread.asp?b=2&t=33856

Now, despite allecto's extreme nit-picking, wild misinterpretations, personal attacks against Joss Whedon, and radical feminist perspective (where prostitution is always bad and most heterosexual sex = rape*), I wouldn't write her off completely. I read through her posts about Our Mrs. Reynolds, and she makes a good point:

Quote:
Now, it is pretty obvious by this point that Saffron has been traded to Mal in exchange for his killing the bad guys. She is a wife in the sense of being a sexual and domestic slave. When Zoe is told that Saffron has been traded to Mal as a wife/slave she begins to laugh. She then calls the rest of the crew and invites them to join her in laughing at Mal’s newly acquired possession.

I don't know about the "obvious" part, but it does put things in a different perspective. I know that it's supposed to be "ha ha, Captain's got a wife," but until Saffron reveals herself to be just another Evil Redhead, she's been treated as property, a "gift" comparable to Jayne's rain stick. The fact that we're supposed to make light of that is not a thought that sits well with me.

* http://users.livejournal.com/_allecto_/34718.html?thread=148382#t14838
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CHRISISALL

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by yinyang:
I wouldn't write her off completely.

She does with words what a terrorist does with bombs. Dud'en mean she ain't got a cause, but a touch of subtlety might make the message go a little farther.

The laughing Chrisisall

BYTEMITE

Wednesday, January 28, 2009 12:13 AM

I don't think they're laughing at HER... But good point. It's not something to make light of, and everyone AFTER the "oh captain, you IDIOT, lol" moment seems to find the idea of Saffron having been given as a gift as something archaic and wrong. Except for Wash and Jayne, but Wash is quickly set straight by Zoe, and Jayne... Well, Jayne is Jayne.

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