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Who would have been the first character to die?

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:16 PM

Knowing Joss, I doubt all nine characters would have made it through the first season of Firefly, had it been completed.

I think it would have probably been either Wash or Zoe, due to their marriage. I love them both, but Joss likes to hurt his main characters, and Zoe's death would screw up Mal even more. I couldn't go without Wash, but maybe Joss could.

Who do y'all think?

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:20 PM

Not necessarily. All of the main characters made it through the first season of Buffy all right -- Buffy, Xander, Willow, Giles, and (eventually) Cordy. You're right, though... it seems possible that something significant would happen to shake up the way of things.

Personally, though, I suspect it would be to Book. There'd be some large revelation about who he was and what his background truly was, and that would greatly change his relationship with the rest of the crew.

The only problem I see with the whole "things will change" is that Serenity's such a small, enclosed environment, compared to the vastness of the rest of the settled territory. Dropping a character off on a planet, unless it was just a short term thing, would mean saying goodbye to that character for a long, long time. It's not like Sunnydale, where a villain could be somewhere nearby for much of the season, only to emerge in the season's final episodes.

History doesn't always repeat itself. Sometimes it merely shouts "Weren't you listening the first time?!?" and lets fly with a club.

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 5:51 PM

Joss is happiest when his fans are pissed off at him, non the less i dont think he would have killed off a core cast member so early on.

He's also expressed his deep love for gina and the way she plays zoe,so i doubt she would be going anywhere.

Firefly is a very different show in many ways to both buffy and angel, plus he did already kinda kill mal. if my bets were on one person he may have brought someone else in to murder, this has been done on two accounts in the form of both tara and doyle.

always the great romantic,joss sets the couples up then knocks them down so maybe one of the will they wont they couples, like inara and mal or kaylee and simon, god i miss the show.

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:25 PM

I'd put my 2 bits of platinum on Jayne. Figuring how close Mal came to letting Jayne get space keelhauled (spkeelhauled? heh), I would think Jayne would die either by another act of betrayal or in the line of fire.


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Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:29 PM

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Originally posted by kasuo:
I'd put my 2 bits of platinum on Jayne. Figuring how close Mal came to letting Jayne get space keelhauled (spkeelhauled? heh), I would think Jayne would die either by another act of betrayal or in the line of fire.


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or maybe he'd redeem himself by protecting river from the guys with the blue hands and ultimatly sacraficing himself to save her...in fact that sounds like a rather plausable storyline to me.

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:53 PM

I agree.

It would have been Jayne and redemption would have been involved.


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Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:09 PM

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Originally posted by athertonwing:
Firefly is a very different show in many ways to both buffy and angel, plus he did already kinda kill mal. if my bets were on one person he may have brought someone else in to murder, this has been done on two accounts in the form of both tara and doyle.





Don't forget about Giles and Jenny Calendar.

I also do not think JW would have killed off one of the core cast members in the first season. With the chemistry the cast had together, I don't think he would have gotten rid of any of them that early. Any of the supporting characters or lovers that might pop up from time to time would be fair game. But, Joss is the genius, so who knows what he had in mind?

May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one.

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:22 PM

Another version of this question could be: Who leaves the ship first? Meaning that if the season had gone longer it appeared that Inara may be leaving.

And IMHO, that is a double whammy for Joss. It obviously would disrupt the Inara/Mal relationship along with disrupting the entire ship chemistry, leading to some very interesting episodes.

I can see it now, Serenity is denied access for landing on Persephone (or enter desired planet name here) because they no longer have there "Ambassador" on board as an excuse and spend the whole episode trying to deliver some type of cargo to Badger who will of course ultimatly not take it because Mal is late.

"Whoa, good Bible."

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:32 PM

I really don't think Joss would have killed off any of the 9 main characters for a very long time, if ever. He picked these specific characters for a reason, and I think there were still many, many stories to tell with each of them. This was a special bunch, and I don't think the plan was to kill off any of them unless the unexpected twists and turns several years down the line required it.

If you look back on Buffy/Angel, besides Doyle, none of the main characters (ones with names in the credits) have died permanently, except for Anya in the last episode. And with Doyle, on one of Joss's commentaries (I think on Welcome to the Hellmouth/The Harvest) he seemed to imply that putting Doyle in the credits was a "trick" to make his death have more of an impact, and they had planned to kill off Doyle real quickly.

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Thursday, January 29, 2004 7:52 PM


I don't think it would have been Jayne, though, simply because that's too plausible. We all kind of expect if Jayne died, it'd be redemptive, so Joss wouldn't do it. Maybe he would shoot it in a way that we would see Jayne die doing something heroic but the rest of the crew would think that he betrayed them.

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