How Obama got elected
POSTED BY: AURaptor
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 19:04
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
watch video to believe :
http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
site is registered to:
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The Death of Free Speech, Inc.
ironical much?
Btw - these were cherry picked to make Obama supporters look bad, it could have been voters for any candidate.
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It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Is that George Clooney ?
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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No, it's you.
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This "neutral" Zogby poll was actually done by a fella name of John Ziegler (JZ). Interview with him, regarding this poll, here:
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/interview-with-john-ziegler-on-
zogby.html
Highlights: (Interviewer is Nate Silver [NS])
NS: Okay, that's what I kind of guessed. How many Obama supporters did you speak with in total?
JZ: All twelve we spoke with are in the video.
NS: Was there any significance to the fact that in the YouTube video, seven of the twelve Obama supporters were black?
JZ: [Laughs]. The reason why we had more black supporters – that might surprise some of the people that we spoke to -- if we go by your apparent ability to determine race -- the first location happened to be in a black section of town and we were able to get our interviews faster there because of they way that was set up, because of the logistics. We had a second location but it got dark and we didn't have any lights. So, that's it, it was no grand racial conspiracy.
NS: How did you represent yourself to John Zogby?
JZ: As private company, Death-of-Free-Speech-dot-inc which is the name of a book that I wrote.
NS: Did Zogby give you sign-off on the press release that he released on his website?
JZ: I'm not sure what you mean by sign-off. The press release I had input into, yes.
NS: Did you have financing for the project or was it paid for out of pocket?
JZ: It is not self-financed.
NS: Who paid for it?
JZ: You think I'm going to tell you that? When you've already shown yourself to be the enemy?
NS: Was it paid for by the RNC?
JZ: [Laughs]. In your world, the question that I would ask you is what question [in the survey] is there any ambiguity as to what the answer is?
NS: Well, that Obama 'launched his career' at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground --
JZ: That happens to be one of the questions that Obama supporters did the best on! They did better on that question than on any other Obama-related answers! And here you’re telling me that it’s not true?
NS: What do you mean by "launched his career"?
JZ: The first campaign as told by the person whose position he took in the State Senate, as told by her admission, his first campaign event was in the home of Bill Ayers and his wife. [Laughs] Unless you live in the Obama kool-aid world! That is astonishing to me that you would not accept that!
And in a later post ( http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/did-talk-radio-kill-conservatis
m.html), Nate Silver refers to the bold sentence:
"This might be the key passage of my interview with John Ziegler on Tuesday, for it is, in a nutshell, why conservatives don't win elections anymore. It is not that conservatism generally permits less nuance than liberalism (in terms of political messaging, that is probably one of conservatism's strengths). Rather, the key lies in the second passage that I highlighted. There are a certain segment of conservatives who literally cannot believe that anybody would see the world differently than the way they do. They have not just forgotten how to persuade; they have forgotten about the necessity of persuasion."
Sound like anyone we know on this site? 
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I should have put this first. Nate Silver's first post about the survey:
The conservative website HowObamaGotElected.com reports that it has commissioned Zogby International to conduct a poll of 512 Barack Obama voters as part of what can best be described as a viral marketing effort to discredit the intelligence of Obama supporters.
The website, created by former radio talk show host John Ziegler to promote a forthcoming documentary, features a YouTube clip of interviews with 12 Obama voters who "were chosen for their apparent intelligence/verbal abilities and willingness to express their opinions to a large audience". The clip portrays the Obama supporters as giving "incorrect" answers to political questions such as "which candidate said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket". Of the 12 Obama supporters interviewed for the clip, 7 (58%) are black; nationwide, about 23% of Obama supporters were black according to the national exit poll.
Most of the questions on the survey take the form of a multiple choice political knowledge test, stating a "fact" to the respondent and asking them which of the four major candidates (Obama, McCain, Biden, Palin) the statement applies to. Questions include the following:
"Which of the four [candidates] said his policies would likely bankrupt the coal industry and make energy rates skyrocket?"
"Which of the four [candidates] started his political career at the home of two former members of the Weather Underground?"
"Which of the four [candidates] quit a previous campaign because of plagiarism?"
"Which of the four [candidates] won his first election by getting opponents kicked off the ballot?"
As should be obvious, the veracity of several of these claims is -- at best -- debatable, yet they are apparently represented as factual to the respondent. It is not clear whether the respondent is informed of the "correct" response after having had the question posed to him.
To my mind, this survey meets the definition of a "push poll", which the Random House Dictionary defines as "a seemingly unbiased telephone survey that is actually conducted by supporters of a particular candidate and disseminates negative information about an opponent."
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/11/zogby-engages-in-apparent-push-
polling.html
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Originally posted by pizmobeach:Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
watch video to believe :
http://www.howobamagotelected.com/
site is registered to:
Registrant:
The Death of Free Speech, Inc.
ironical much?
Btw - these were cherry picked to make Obama supporters look bad, it could have been voters for any candidate.
Here's your sign
Knowing how much you worship stupid...
I will take that as high praise.
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No, it's you.
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Silence is consent.
That's silly, and makes no sense, what so ever.
And it looks like George Clooney, if it looks like anyone.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Bush is smarter than Kerry OR Gore, so make fun of him all you want, he's still the best choice we had.
ouch, now MY head hurts.
It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Obama supporters are dim witted dolts who know only what they're told by the main stream media.
So it's your contention that the majority of the American voters are dimwitted dolts? That WOULD explain 8 years of Bush quite handily...
Thanks for proving that you're in that majority!
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