Death of a fellow firefly fan
POSTED BY: fireflyfanatic
UPDATED: Thursday, February 5, 2004 21:44
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So run their IP, call it in to their provider, and their local law enforcement (there's provisions under identity theft law for this sort of thing) - I know that sounds "too much like work" but one of the real hassles of the internet is the lack of consequences for this sort of behavior directly encourage it.
That's for Haken and Southern Slayer to do, or not, as they wish - but do bear in mind if you don't drop a big heavy boot on such crap at the very start, it can sink an internet community in short order, some of us have watched it happen all too many times.
So I'd seriously reccommend an ass kicking here to put paid to this kind of thing before it becomes common.
-frem
"ill behavior, without consequence, will continue." - Dispatch 3
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Originally posted by lovekaylee:
still all revalling in that whole death thing?...basically i got something to say you cant trust anyone online,not even me. in fact me more than most, i played you little morons from the start i posted the death thread, i picked the member, i then posted on the thread just to cover my own ass and you dupes fell for it hook line and sinker in fact i even began posting in the tag line and all you did was swoon around me like flies on shit. well not only have you been taken for a ride once but twice in 24hours...rather pathetic how trusting you firefly fans are id see to that if i were you. with your blind faith and such utter dedication in all thats good and shiny im sure a movie will be made, did i mention i was a liar? did i also mention i dont know england from iraq also i think i proved a point trust nothing and no one or you might just get duped again. southern slayer i am truly sorry.actually no im not. i got my laughs.also final note may wanna see to the security in this place is going to the dogs.keep flying but with fans like you your more likley to crash, dont bother with the emails..ill see myself out.
LOVEKAYELEE and Fireflyfanatic
Oh, aren't you the clever one. (Please note heavy sarcasm)
The only thing you proved is that as a community we care about one of our own. If anything, that shows that we pull together and we have a heart.
On the flip side, there are losers like you LoveKaylee Or FireflyFanatic, whatever name you want to go by. Aren't you special, you post on a message board where no one but the Admin can prove who you are. You are so very clever......in your own mind.
Seems you have a lot of free time on your hands. The sad thing is that the only ones laughing here, are us, not you. You obviously have no life, and pulling a sick joke like this is how you get your sick thrills. Run out of flies to pull the wings off of? So we all get to set back, point at you and how pitiful and idiotic your attempt at a "joke" is, and how foolish you come off looking.
Don't worry about Firefly, the movie, or the board. We did well enough long before you skulked in, and we will be doing well after you skulk back to your child porn site, sitting alone in your little apartment, all alone, with no friends or family.
Just crawl back into your hole & don't show your face here anymore.
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Originally posted by Saint Jayne:Quote:
Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
So, physically speaking, there is more intrinsic value than just the physical value.
Only if there is intrinsic value for the living does that matter. If an object has value only to me and I die, then it has no value.
Hmmm... I am sure Lincoln thought nothing of his spitoon... But, plenty of people would like to have it.
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Originally posted by Saint Jayne:Quote:
I think there is more to it than just saying: "Aw, too bad, you are dead. Screw you and the horse you rode in on. Now I am going to tear thru all of your personal stuff and secrets to find out what you were really thinking privately all by yourself."
Some people may act like this. Some people my look for secrets (or remember things forgotten) to keep the deceased in mind. Some people are looking for answers. Some people are tying up loose ends. Whatever the motivation, it's only the concerns of the living that matter at this point.
I think I am getting what you are saying. Let me take a stab at it. You are saying that once a person is dead, they do not physically have a way to influence on the state of affairs. I think I can agree with you there - although folks who believe in the paranormal who think otherwise. But I think you person who has now expired can still have their way by having expressed their wishes before hand, I think there are both legal and moral precedents that illustrates this. Think of the will (something very legalstic and more powerful) and the little blue dot on the driver license (more social contract'ish than the legal stuff). The will allows the dead, not physically, but perhaps legally to enforce their wishes (sure, you can't say that " I want Sue and Jack to be killed after I am done", it's got to be up and up) . That's even after they have died.
And think about all of the stories about the Dead Man's last wish/words. You've got to do it! It was his last wish!
I certainly understand why people in the family would want to pry. People wants to pry into JFK's and Nixon's private memoirs too. But those don't get opened up until most everyone who cares to remember is also dead. Anyways, all I am saying is that, I think there are legal and social aspects of it to carry out the dead's former wishes.
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
I think I am getting what you are saying.
It looks like we have the happy middle ground. I'll also agree that a deceased and their last wishes command a great deal of respect - from most of us. That's where law steps in to dictate what is socially acceptable.
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
So run their IP, call it in to their provider, and their local law enforcement (there's provisions under identity theft law for this sort of thing) - I know that sounds "too much like work" but one of the real hassles of the internet is the lack of consequences for this sort of behavior directly encourage it.
That's for Haken and Southern Slayer to do, or not, as they wish - but do bear in mind if you don't drop a big heavy boot on such crap at the very start, it can sink an internet community in short order, some of us have watched it happen all too many times.
So I'd seriously reccommend an ass kicking here to put paid to this kind of thing before it becomes common.
-frem
"ill behavior, without consequence, will continue." - Dispatch 3
Here, here to that.
Oh, and play Cantr II at www.cantr.net.
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So....
What's the verdict?
Have we captured the culprit?
Have they been banished?
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
So....
What's the verdict?
Have we captured the culprit?
Have they been banished?
Haven't heard a peep about this "person" or whether or not they had been banned.
Clicking on "its" profile, looks like they have not been here since 1/28 @ 07:40, just after they admitted to being a cave dwelling troll.
Good riddance.
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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Clicking on "its" profile, looks like they have not been here since 1/28 @ 07:40, just after they admitted to being a cave dwelling troll.
That doesn't keep him from anonymously reading these posts. Or signing up as another user with another (unbanned) IP address/e-mail address. I can't imagine him just leaving like that, and not enjoying all the turmoil.
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Jason,
I posted a new threat "Death and Privacy" to discuss this. You might be surprised.
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Originally posted by Jasonzzz:
It's like, "oh, he/she is dead now, it doesn't really matter". Aren't private things still private? if they had wanted to share those things, they would have shared itQuote:
Originally posted by Saint Jayne:
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They reserve a special place in hell for people like this..kinda place for child molesters and people who think suicide is funny.
SPECIAL HELL
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