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STORYMARK

Friday, October 17, 2008 3:58 PM

The Hollywood Reported just did an article on current shows, and where they stand.

TSCC is listed as one of the on-the-bubble shows, which essentially means, they're sticking with it for now, but if ratings don't improve by Christmas or so, it's gone.

I still think they should just pull it for now, and use the currently filmed but unaired episodes to relaunch in January, after 24. Much stronger lead-in, and the marketing will be starting up for Terminator Salvation, raising the profile of the franchise as a whole.

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Friday, October 17, 2008 4:27 PM

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Originally posted by Jubal99:
That's one of the reasons the show is not performing. People like Zeek who should be grateful that Summer was one of the main reasons Firefly was good and not trash her new project everytime he sees fit. I thought Firefly was anti-troll but this guy is a bonafide troll. Browncoats don't support Summer the way they should and you wonder why Firefly and Serenity failed. Just shut your yap and support. Simple as that. I'm ashamed to be a browncoat reading some of these messages. Terminator is now IT.

First of all, Zeek is not a troll. He's been here a helluva lot longer than you, and he's always an interesting read. Yes, he has opinions. Just because they differ from yours does not mean he's a troll. One of the major premises behind Firefly is independence. The notion that you think everyone ought to give up their independent thought, turn into sheep, and praise crap television is absurd.

Second, Terminator is "not performing" because, among other reasons, the viewing population at large is not interested in it. Being a fan of Firefly or Serenity does not automatically obligate you to like every single thing the actors decide to work with next.

As for Summer being one of the "main reasons Firefly was good," I agree, but I can also point out at least 11 other main reasons why Firefly was good, none of which have anything to do with Summer; she was just one part of a whole great entity. The fact that this site - and many others - exists and we're here at all is testament to our support. The fact that we as a community and Joss as a creator did enough to convince Universal to make Serenity three years after the show was cancelled is testament to our support. Make no mistake, the show failed because FOX failed the show with their own lack of support, not because we didn't support the show or any single actor within the show.

...That being said, I'll still watch Terminator for as long as Summer is in it, even though I still don't think the show is good enough for Summer's talents.

ZEEK

Friday, October 17, 2008 6:55 PM

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Originally posted by Jubal99:
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Originally posted by Zeek:
Who thinks the "never back down" title for the contest is holding it back? I think a "hope summer gets a better role after this stinker gets canceled" sweepstakes would go over much better.

That's one of the reasons the show is not performing. People like zeek who should be grateful that Summer was one of the main reasons Firefly was good and not trash her new project everytime he sees fit. I thought Firefly was anti-troll but this guy is a bonafide troll. Browncoats don't support Summer the way they should and you wonder why Firefly and Serenity failed. Just shut your yap and support. Simple as that. I''m ashamed to be a browncoat reading some of these messages. Terminator is now IT.

OK so that one post didn't have a ton of tact to it, but as you can see I'm still defending Summer in it. I really do believe her talent is being wasted on this show. I don't like the show and I'm pretty sure I'm allowed to express that opinion.

Sorry I missed your post. I've already given up watching the show and looking at the threads. HK alerted me about it though. Hope we can all be friendly browncoats around here no matter what our opinions.

WINDIE

Friday, October 17, 2008 10:43 PM

I couldn't agree more; the show is stagnating.

I feel that we all want something more (read Firefly) but we aint getting it now or never. Makes me sad (and Mad) I'll watch Summer in this show and Jewel in SGA but I will still be sad for a reason that I can't put into words. Even wifey understands this time.

The same type of people that are failing the world economy took the sky from me and I am mad as hell, but I can't fight what I can't see!!!!!

Why have they taken the sky from ME

ECGORDON

Friday, October 17, 2008 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
I still think they should just pull it for now, and use the currently filmed but unaired episodes to relaunch in January, after 24.

Even if they did that it would air before 24, not after. 24 will be on at 9pm Eastern/Pacific as it has for as long as I can remember, and FOX still does not program in the 10:00 hour. Besides, when 24 comes back it will have a lead-in of Dollhouse, and I would much rather see it than TSCC.

Don't get me wrong, I still watch TSCC, and will continue to do so, but it is mainly because of Summer. It's been a bit better the past couple of episodes and I'm hoping that can continue. But if they are going to move it it needs to be soon, and I would suggest to Wednesdays at 9 following Bones.

MICJWELCH

Saturday, October 18, 2008 11:44 AM

Reports of Sarah Connor's demise have been highly exaggerated.

http://www.thrfeed.com/2008/10/fox-picks-up-te.html

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REGINAROADIE

Saturday, October 18, 2008 2:51 PM

I just read over at EW.com that SARAH CONNOR has gotten the order for the back nine, so there will be in fact a full season 2 of the show.

Personally, while I watch the show, I don't really have that much of an investment into it, so if they were to cancel it I wouldn't really care. But this is still good news.

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ASARIAN

Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:53 PM

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Originally posted by Jubal99:

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:

Who thinks the "never back down" title for the contest is holding it back? I think a "hope summer gets a better role after this stinker gets canceled" sweepstakes would go over much better.

That's one of the reasons the show is not performing. People like zeek who should be grateful that Summer was one of the main reasons Firefly was good and not trash her new project everytime he sees fit. I thought Firefly was anti-troll but this guy is a bonafide troll. Browncoats don't support Summer the way they should and you wonder why Firefly and Serenity failed. Just shut your yap and support. Simple as that. I'm ashamed to be a browncoat reading some of these messages. Terminator is now IT.

Sadly, it don't work like that. You can't support something ex nihilo, or just because you decide a person is in it you like.

Sad truth is, TSCC were doomed to fail from the get-go. It had so many internal inconsistencies to start with, that it already could never become a great show -- all, at best, it could hope for, from that moment on was, was damage control and salvage.

Summer has been great. Her portrayal of "Allison from Palmdale" alone should win her an Emmy. But Summer, no matter how good she is, still needs a good script and directors. To say otherwise would be tantamount to saying Joss had nothing to do with Firefly's success. Call it a 'mutual beneficial business arrangement', if you will. And TSCC, without Summer, were hardly even mediocre. I'm sorry about that. A lot went wrong. The 'twerp', his annoyingly always-angry mom, the countless script errors, a storyline that seems to go nowhere, etc. I mean, I ain't sayin' I didn't want it to be different, but the moment it came out, I knew 'tweren't long-lived. In fact, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.

There were decidedly some half-way decent episodes, where I sat up in my seat a bit, hoping things would pick up from there, only to see my hopes dashed in the next episode.

Also, point of interest, to force Summer to stay in a boat that's clearly sinking may ultimately just prove to cause her star to sink along with it.

Perhaps it really is time to let go of TSCC.

N.B. And don't tell me now I don't love Summer enough, for she was the main reason I came here, couple of years back. But way it is is the way it is.

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WHOZIT

Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:00 PM

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Originally posted by asarian:
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Originally posted by Jubal99:

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:

Who thinks the "never back down" title for the contest is holding it back? I think a "hope summer gets a better role after this stinker gets canceled" sweepstakes would go over much better.

That's one of the reasons the show is not performing. People like zeek who should be grateful that Summer was one of the main reasons Firefly was good and not trash her new project everytime he sees fit. I thought Firefly was anti-troll but this guy is a bonafide troll. Browncoats don't support Summer the way they should and you wonder why Firefly and Serenity failed. Just shut your yap and support. Simple as that. I'm ashamed to be a browncoat reading some of these messages. Terminator is now IT.

Sadly, it don't work like that. You can't support something ex nihilo, or just because you decide a person is in it you like.

Sad truth is, TSCC were doomed to fail from the get-go. It had so many internal inconsistencies to start with, that it already could never become a great show -- all, at best, it could hope for, from that moment on was, was damage control and salvage.

Summer has been great. Her portrayal of "Allison from Palmdale" alone should win her an Emmy. But Summer, no matter how good she is, needs a good script and directors. To say otherwise would be tantamount to saying Joss had nothing to do with Firefly's success. Call it a 'mutual beneficial business arrangement', if you will. And TSCC, without Summer, were hardly even mediocre. I'm sorry about that. A lot went wrong. The 'twerp', his annoyingly always-angry mom, the countless script errors, a storyline that seems to go nowhere, etc. I mean, I ain't sayin' I didn't want it to be different, but the moment it came out, I knew 'tweren't long-lived. In fact, I'm surprised it lasted as long as it did.

There were decidedly some half-way decent episodes, where I sat up in my seat a bit, hoping things would pick up from there, only to see my hopes dashed in the next episode.

Also, point of interest, to force Summer to stay in a boat that's clearly sinking, may ultimately just prove to cause her star to sink along with it.

Perhaps it really is time to let go of TSCC.

N.B. And don't tell me now I don't love Summer enough, for she was the main reason I came here, couple of years back. But way it is is the way it is.

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"Mei-mei, everything I have is right here." -- Simon Tam

Do'nt give up yet, it's going to have a full season. go to www.summer-glau.net for the good news!

ASARIAN

Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:14 PM

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Originally posted by whozit:

Do'nt give up yet, it's going to have a full season. go to www.summer-glau.net for the good news!

Wow! Then I hope they take this reprieve as a godsent, and will clean up their act! :) All-in-all, I rather see this end well, than all involved having to bite the dust (that's not good for anyone's career).

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