The Last Thing We Need is a Great Leader
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Friday, September 19, 2025 16:46
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Originally posted by rue:
Nice dodge on the questions. And still no answer.
I hope you don't mind if I interpret your lack of answers as a lack of solutions.
Heh... same old, same old. Your silly dance has an awkward charm to it after a piece. Let's see, what were we talking about? Oh yeah, your claim that those of us advocating smaller government are in favor of corporate domination. It doesn't make sense and you know it, which is why, in typical fashion, you run crying to the "IT'S FOR THE CHILDREN!!!" corner. Really rue, who's dodging here? Wanna tell us how the corps and their armies of lawyers will manage without government support? I didn't think so.
SergeantX
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Originally posted by citizen:
Evidence doesn't support the idea that deregulated markets keep corporations in line. Quite the opposite in fact.
Certainly not the phony 'deregulation' cons that voters keep falling for. Those aren't deregulating a damned thing, just shifting the rules around for the benefit of those doing the shifting. If you really want to make a dent in corporate abuse hows about 'deregulating' the laws that give them special status in the fist place? Make them play by the same rules as the rest of us. Seems like a pretty logical first step. Anything else is just pissing in the wind.
SergeantX
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Originally posted by Kwicko:
But I think it takes a pretty smart person AND a great leader to know when to stay the hell out of the way.
Indeed. And that kind of smarts is considerably rare in government these days. I wonder of Obama "Get's it"?
SergeantX
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
How come every time I bother with an in-depth reply, you suddenly find other things to do, and when the issue comes up again, you falsely assert that I have remained silent on the topic ?
Are you talking to me? Because I got the response. If not could you direct your comments please?
At any rate, economic policies hinged around deregulated markets tend to throw up monopolies. Government funded Social programs, pluristic public institutions and sensible market regulation is an absolute requirement for a functioning non-corporatist economy, not an anathema to it. Assuming Government is the cause of all the worlds ills is simplistic at best.
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Certainly not the phony 'deregulation' cons that voters keep falling for. Those aren't deregulating a damned thing, just shifting the rules around for the benefit of those doing the shifting. If you really want to make a dent in corporate abuse hows about 'deregulating' the laws that give them special status in the fist place? Make them play by the same rules as the rest of us. Seems like a pretty logical first step. Anything else is just pissing in the wind.
Reganite and Thatcherite deregulated markets have had their day. They've thrown up the monopolistic corporations that can then force preferential treatment.
How are deregulated markets supposed to work anyway? Because everyone is always going to make the best decisions for their own self interest, so deregulated markets will always produce optimal results?
Sound like the idealism of things like communism to me.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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Originally posted by citizen:
Assuming Government is the cause of all the worlds ills is simplistic at best.
And that's a simplistic misstatement of the view being presented here. It's the public's insistence that the government solve all their problems that's at issue. That's the whole point of the article really.
SergeantX
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
And that's a simplistic misstatement of the view being presented here. It's the public's insistence that the government solve all their problems that creates the problems. That's the whole point of the article really.
Except I was responding to Frem's post (the one that says "if government would step out of the way everything would be peachy") not the article.
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Originally posted by citizen:
Except I was responding to Frem's post (the one that says "if government would step out of the way everything would be peachy") not the article.
Fair enough, my apologies.
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
Fair enough, my apologies.
No problem
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Originally posted by citizen:
Reganite and Thatcherite deregulated markets have had their day. They've thrown up the monopolistic corporations that can then force preferential treatment.
How are deregulated markets supposed to work anyway? Because everyone is always going to make the best decisions for their own self interest, so deregulated markets will always produce optimal results?
Sound like the idealism of things like communism to me.
I'm not talking about utopia or anything. As I said earlier, the kind of deregulation that Thatcher and Reagan pushed was just rearranging deck chairs. We throw regulation at corporations thinking it's going to make up for the unfair advantage we've given them legally. It's attacking a symptom, but ignoring the cause. The problem is that corporations have an unfair advantage over privately owned business. They're never fully accountable and the legal perks they enjoy permit them to amass power and wealth far beyond what would occur in a real free market.
SergeantX
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