Financing Serenity 2 (or more Firefly)

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UPDATED: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 04:41
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OUT2THEBLACK

Friday, June 13, 2008 4:49 PM

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Originally posted by Vexem:
I have no idea if it would help get a sequel made nor how feasible it all would be but here is my 1 cent. I have only been around this forum a few days and am fairly new to Firefly/Serenity obsession - a fan from the tv days, but growing more obsessed all the time.

...If the community can ever come up with what seems like a reasonable and robust plan, it needs to make its way to Joss and/or the studio execs.

I know I'm new (and perhaps naive) with enthusiasm, but please don't open the outer airlock after we leave the atmosphere.

I'd give 50 Platinum for your 1 cent ideas...

Yours is one of the most thoughtful posts I've ever seen on this subject...

We love the 'new' folk...Y'all have such interestin' stories...

WELCOME ABOARD !

I've gotta run just now...But we'll talk later !

NETSOLO

Friday, June 13, 2008 9:11 PM

Wow- a fan financed studio movie!

While the logistics (especially knowing how rough the climate is out here right now - to a point where studios are actually cutting their annual feature film production schedules in half) are quite an uphill climb, it's a crazy enough idea that it might work. I'd imagine to even pique the studio's interest, you would need at least 50% of the budget to dangle in front of them as an independent financer.

But I think the bigger effort might not be raising funds, I think it's something that (in my two minutes of experience) I've noticed that the Browncoats are pretty good at doing: proving to those suits behind the desks over off Lankershim Blvd. that another Serenity sequel would be profitable.

I think people being willing to donate production money to a studio personifies that - but if there's some way to prove to them that if they pony up even another $30 mil, they'll be able to recoop their investment plus some.

I had to look it up but the first film grossed $25,335,935 with a budget estimate of $39 mil, which makes it a tough sell to the number crunchers that make the decisions at the studios. There has to be some way of showing them that investing in another flick would be well worth their time (and cash)...

Unless...

You guys are thinking about helping Joss independently financing the film OUTSIDE of the studio system.

Oooh... now that's so crazy, it might actually work. Even if the fans couldn't get together funds for a feature film - direct to DVD or webisodes are always an option (and a fraction of the production cost)... hmmm...

NORCALBROWNCOAT

Friday, June 13, 2008 9:33 PM

NORCALBROWNCOAT

Friday, June 13, 2008 9:34 PM

wow i think alot of people want Firefly and serenity back, but i would donate an amount of each paycheck of mine to get the show/movie going again

OUT2THEBLACK

Friday, June 13, 2008 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by NetSolo:

Unless...

You guys are thinking about helping Joss independently financing the film OUTSIDE of the studio system.

Yer durn tootin' , that's what I've been thinkin' for more than a little while now...

Folk should oughta remember , the Writer's Strike was largely over the issues of Internet Distribution of content...Folk oughta get paid for their work , regardless of the modalities involved...

Here's the deal : The F-Network still owns the Television production rights on 'Firefly' for a year or two...But , then what ? Will they attempt to negotiate an option to extend , and get us more Firefly due to Joss' success with Dollhouse ?

Joss won't take another chance at letting go the TV rights without some BIG guarantees...He'd make them commit to at least A SEASON , probably with a lot of other caveats and addendums...Like , the rights and creative control would remain in his hands , should the F-Network not renew after that first relight...

' Versal ? Who knows what they're thinking ? There wasn't a big 'fanboy factor' with the Serenity film , although there were plenty of folk like myself , who saw the film in the theaters Numerous Times before losing count , our sheer numbers just weren't enough to 'hold the line'...More on this , later...

My favorite scenario involves a big cable net like HBO or Showtime doing a mini-series (and DVD boxset) ala The Tudors or The Sopranos , only it's 'our gang' , on our beloved ship...

Then , there's my 'corporate angel' scenario , which involves Jeff Bezos (Amazon) , Richard Branson (Virgin Galactic) , or Paul Allen (Microsoft)...

They all have their own space programs...We could have a DVD boxset , and one of the special features would be a promo for their respective compan(y)ies...

Seems if anyone could see the 'long tail' on our spaceship , it would be Mr. Bezos...

He's already collected A LOT of Shiny Coin from the Browncoats...

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Oooh... now that's so crazy, it might actually work. Even if the fans couldn't get together funds for a feature film - direct to DVD or webisodes are always an option (and a fraction of the production cost)... hmmm...

Now , tell me what you REALLY think !

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, June 13, 2008 10:16 PM

Three part Mini series. Three over a two or three year span. It sounds kinda goonie but I kinda like getting a taste with the comics every so often. Sure keeps a lot of pressure off of the creative minds/talents giving us great stories and it soothes the itch for fans and the like.

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VEXEM

Friday, June 13, 2008 10:48 PM

{{NEVER MIND Found it on the home page - I could not figure out how to participate in the poll. Was it only active for a finite period?}}

How does one start a poll, it might be interesting to run a new one with a revised scenario and more support levels defined. With 30% at $100+ that leaves a lot of ambiguity. I like the person that started this thread would consider a $1,000+ "donation".

If there was a chance to earn a return on the contributions and/or receive special consideration such as a prestigious spot in the credits, it might not be that hard to attract some big contributions. Each 200 $5,000 contribs would be $1 million. But the bread and butter would likely still be in the masses - if we could get 100,000 (that's twice as many as took the poll) $100 contribs (1-2 tanks of gas), that would be $10 million.

I wouldn't be surprised if there are a few Browncoats that could make 6 or even 7 digit contribs toward the project.

It does not seem like voting in the weekly poll is limited to one vote per account. How much vote stuffing could be occurring? How many registered users are on this forum? Did 49,000 people actually vote in the last week?

ANONYMOUS1

Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:12 AM

out2theblack wrote:
Monday, June 09, 2008 19:29

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--Joss Whedon , speaking of his spare-time project , Dr. Horrible's Sing-Along Blog,

Self-financed. Experiment. Coming this summer to an internet near you. Nathan Fillion as Captain Hammer.

Official Site: http://drhorrible.com

Official Fan Site: http://doctorhorrible.net

Remember everyone. Joss is boss. Joss knows how to reach us.

STOWEAWAY

Saturday, June 14, 2008 2:31 AM

Speaking of Webisodes, I think if anyone wants to get Mr. Whedon onboard, this would be the approach to take.
I would imagine a studio-less production formula (read: no suits) is fresh in his mind. If Dr. Horrible is widely successful and profitable, he may want to do more.
Why not have a pre-purchase of Firefly webisodes that can provide him with his production budget (smaller perhaps than the original show). Then we don't have to ask some big corporate studio to take a gamble on us Browncoats. We can just ask Mr. Whedon himself and then put our money where our collective mouths are.

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ANONYMOUS1

Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:40 AM

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Originally posted by Stoweaway:
If Dr. Horrible is widely successful and profitable, he may want to do more.

And studios may want to do more with him. One day a studio will realize there is enough money to be made in the 'verse to take the risk again. Either that or Joss and the actors are going to do it themselves and ask a studio to stamp there name on it.

The more people see of our Big Darn Heroes, the more they want to see of our Big Darn Heroes...which leads them back to Firefly/Serenity. And that include Joss and Tim Minear too!

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