Alliance Helmets: German WWII helmets???
POSTED BY: BrownCoat1
UPDATED: Sunday, January 18, 2004 03:18
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SergeantX,
sorry, but a correction: the article "Must-See Metaphysics" appeared in September 2002, not 2000. Don't know what I was thinking. And the author was Emily Nussbaum.
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Thanks for the info, I'll look for that article. I never read the Heart of Gold script, just watched the episode. Did they leave out something significant?
I thought the whole point of 'The Message' was the idea of Mal's old war buddy reminding him of what they were actually doing, i.e. Robbing and killing. Granted, Mal is at heart a good person, but there's definitely a contradiction between his sense of honor and righteousness and the types of situations they routinely find themselves in. I think the old army buddy served as an example of how ugly that can get.
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Tracey: .. I still remember the old sarge with his stories and his homilies of glory and honor.
Mal: Maybe you shoulda listened.
Tracey: Yeah, well what are you now? What are we now, Mal?
SergeantX
"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith
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Whoops, SergeantX, I think I'm losing my mind today. I meant to say "Dead or Alive" rather than "Heart of Gold." You're right, I don't remember much about the Alliance being shades of gray in Heart of Gold!
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I just thought of another interesting point concerning the helmet. The flashback scene, being a flashback would have represented their memories of the events, and would have therefore been colored by their own perceptions of who was good and evil. In that context it makes perfect sense (from our current historical perspective concerning Nazis) to have the Alliance soldier dressed like a German soldier, wereas in "Train Job" we are perhaps getting a more accurate picture of Alliance troops.
SergeantX
"..and here's to all the dreamers, may our open hearts find rest." -- Nanci Griffith
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Originally posted by SergeantX:
I just thought of another interesting point concerning the helmet. The flashback scene, being a flashback would have represented their memories of the events, and would have therefore been colored by their own perceptions of who was good and evil. In that context it makes perfect sense (from our current historical perspective concerning Nazis) to have the Alliance soldier dressed like a German soldier, wereas in "Train Job" we are perhaps getting a more accurate picture of Alliance troops.
I gotta say I'm douting that one. It was probably the uniform that they used in the war. The troops we see now may be more of a police force which if you look at it one seems all soldiery like and the starship troopers seem more s.w.a.t.ified. Wouldn't really need an actual "military" now that there is no one left to fight, but a militarized police force to keep order would be just the thing for a centralized nanny government.
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Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Ok, so I was watching "The Message" again last night and again it struck me as odd that the helmet the Alliance scout that Zoe kills is wearing is identical to the German helmet of WWII.
Have you looked at modern helmets of late? The distinctive feature is the way the helmets covers the ears. Most militaries are going to this style, because, its safer for the troops wearing them. Better protection.
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Originally posted by Drakon:Quote:
Originally posted by BrownCoat1:
Ok, so I was watching "The Message" again last night and again it struck me as odd that the helmet the Alliance scout that Zoe kills is wearing is identical to the German helmet of WWII.
Have you looked at modern helmets of late? The distinctive feature is the way the helmets covers the ears. Most militaries are going to this style, because, its safer for the troops wearing them. Better protection.
Read my 2nd post in this thread Drakon:
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I am not talking about the helmets from the troopers in the railcar in "Train Job". I recognized those for Starship Troopers. I know a lot of Sci Fi shows had been using them & figured it was because they were cheap to rent.
The helmet I am talking about is the solid black one that the scout in the flashback sequence of "The Message" was wearing. His entire uniform, LBE & weapons were black; for stealth purposes I am sure. When they show him close up, his helmet is clearly not a kevlar helmet the armed forces are using now. I was in the service and am familiar w/ the kevlar helmet. The one the Alliance scout had on was easily recognized as the German WWII helmet. It is thin metal, not the thicker kevlar.
I have seen the modern kevlar helmet, even had one when I was in back in the late 80s to mid 90s, and what the scout was wearing is not it.
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