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Why George Bush is a great man & a very good President

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:18 AM

Bush is a dumbass and a terrible president.

Wuo duh ma...

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 8:24 AM

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Originally posted by Storymark:
Do you really think there is no middle ground between doing nothing, and running off "half cocked?"

Um...isn't that the choices they offer when people question the Iraq War? You either commit the stupidest foreign policy blunder in American history or you do nothing?

So, no, I don't think they see a middle ground.

Sad thing is, it took a couple years of planning before Bush could go off half-cocked. Guess he wanted to do it right!

HKCavalier

Hey, hey, hey, don't be mean. We don't have to be mean, because, remember, no matter where you go, there you are.

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:42 AM

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Originally posted by Blueredgreen:
Bush is a dumbass and a terrible president.

Wuo duh ma...



Say what you will, he's still smarter than Gore or Kerry.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:52 AM

Unfortunately that ain't sayin much.

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 11:49 AM

Bush will go down in history as a bad President. He hit his high note right after Sept 11, 2001. That day, the whole country ( except for leftist America-haters) was left wondering what was happening and was more to come. Bush went on TV and spoke to the nation with a calm assurance. He correctly identified the attackers as Islamic terrorists, and said he would fight a new kind of war against them.

From that moment on, he made one blunder after the next...beginning with waiting 30 days to go into Afghanistan....by sending only a skeleton military force into Afghanistan, and by dealing with warlords and opium dealers to fight the Taliban and Al Qaida. Bad as that mess was, he then announced "shock & awe" for Bagdhad, a ridiculous & embarrassing over-statement of plans for invasion. As much as I hated the terrorists for 911,going into Iraq was a huge mistake. He took his eye off the ball, and in Iraq it has been one blunder after another...going back to the un-fetterred looting by the civilians, the Paul Bremer "era" of incompetence & daily mass death, and the Rumsfeld strategy of allowing our too few troops to get fucking blown up every day with roadside bombs. They failed to get Al Sadr in Fallujah, and they failed miserably to secure the country. Add to Bush's woes his utter lack of strength when it came to leadership in dealing with OPEC, and his abysmal record of international cooperation....then Katrina, then waterboarding, then failing to go to FISA Court for surveylliance, failing to go after national security leakers at the CIA and NSA.

An important element in evaluating a President's legacy is how they left the nation when their term was up. Bush is handing off America to the next Presidnet in very dire straits...maybe the worst handoff I've ever seen in 50+ years.............
$ 4.00 gas...maybe soon $ 8 gas
Endless death in Iraq??...for what again?
Out of control Mexican border
American sanctuary cities defying Immigration law with impunity
US Dollar terribly weak
Economy near recession
Out of control food and energy prices
Home mortgage debacle

To his credit, and that's very limited, he did cut my income taxes slightly, and I have received a total of $ 1500 in tax rebate/incentive checks in 8 years.

But he is leaving a big fat mess for the country. He should hang his head in deep shame when he welcomes the next President to Washington.

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 2:29 PM

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Originally posted by HKCavalier:
Um...isn't that the choices they offer when people question the Iraq War? You either commit the stupidest foreign policy blunder in American history or you do nothing?

So, no, I don't think they see a middle ground.

Bush is a terrorist and the US is a fascist state. This is the so-called “Middle Ground.”



Nihil est incertius vulgo, nihil obscurius voluntate hominum, nihil fallacius ratione tota comitiorum.

Nothing is more unpredictable than the mob, nothing more obscure than public opinion, nothing more deceptive than the whole political system.

-- Cicero

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 3:35 PM

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Bush is a terrorist and the US is a fascist state
Wow! Could it be.....?

Oh, it was ironic.

Yes, imho Bush IS a terrorist. That's what we call someone who kills and tortures civilians achieve a politcal end, isn't it? Does it make any difference if it's done with missiles or with explosive vests? If you listen to some of our vets, they describe a situation that's mayhem and madness... anyone and anything a target.

It seems to me we need to recover our honor and backbone, and stop our craven quest for oil and what we perceive as the "safety" of killing everyone who hates us even though they're 10,000 miles away. We HAVE to walk our talk. We've got to stop "promising peace but delivering death". It goes deeper than w/drawing our troops from the "every conceivable place in the world" we have them stationed, or raising the minimum wage, or even instituting universal health care.

We have to stop running in fear. We run run run. We run from the capitalist, from the terrorist, from crime, from our neighbor, from the future and we bury ourselves in "American Idol" and mounds of "stuff" that we don't even need because we're told endlessly that we can "live on the edge", or "find freedom" if we only buy this that and the other.

I have hope that we will recover. Not all Presidents are bad, nor all politicians. Some actually DO think about what's good for the USA. Not Bush, tho.




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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 4:53 PM

The Presidency In The Year 2007

With multiple resignations and the loss of the Republican majority in Congress, many of President Bush's accomplishments failed to make the news. Here are some of the high points of this year in the Bush administration:

Feb. 10—Left a crowd outside a batting cage in Baltimore feeling proud to be Americans

March 5—Received his 30-day chip from Alcoholics Anonymous

April 8—Hid Easter eggs so effectively that no child could find them

April 15—Donated $3 to the Presidential Election Campaign Fund by ticking box on tax return

June 16—Finally finished fixing up that old '67 Chevy that had been on blocks on the White House front lawn

Aug. 14—Said "Ahmadinejad" correctly without looking at palm

Sept. 14—Bagged lunch, which helped knock $65 off of $9 trillion debt

Oct. 1—Worked so hard all day, didn't realize it was 5:15 p.m.


thanks to the onion for that reminder

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:19 PM

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Originally posted by Finn mac Cumhal:
Bush is a terrorist and the US is a fascist state. This is the so-called “Middle Ground.”


See Finn, you and I and most other Americans are green, have webbed fingers & toes, and are sitting in a country-sized circular metal skillet, and they are turning up the heat oh-so-slowly....

isall

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Tuesday, May 13, 2008 7:37 PM

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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Well, I don't believe he got the full breifing on the whole situation right there in the classroom, so I'd say step one would be get off his ass and make sure he was aware of all available information.


So you do not have a problem with what Bush did, you have a problem with when Bush did it. If Bush had immediately run from the classroom and hid in his limo for half an hour, then you would be okay with his actions? There would be no tape of Bush in the classroom then. And when it comes down to it, we are speaking of optics here, nothing more.



Christ, do you even read before responding? Or are you just incapable of anything but a straw-man response?

No, I wouldn't want him to go "hide in his limo", I would have liked for him to get involved. If that entailed getting a breifing in his limo - so bit it. But sitting on his ass is not the action of a leader.

"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."

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