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Another anti-war movie bombs!

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Sunday, March 30, 2008 7:26 PM

There was In the Valley of Elah, there was Redacted, there was Rendition, there was Lions for Lambs...all of them have been flops at the box office.

Now there's MTV's cinematic op-ed against Operation Iraqi Freedom...Stop-Loss .

It's a complete bomb. Estimates so far are just $4.5 million in its opening weekend. It opened 8th out of the top 10.

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080330/D8VNTGJ80.html

Here's a review of the film:

http://www.libertyfilmfestival.com/libertas/?p=9482

Paul Farhi of the Washington Post put it correctly, "The only things less popular than the war itself are dramatic films and television shows about the conflict."

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Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:44 PM

I'm curious. Are you trying to make some kind of point with this post?

SergeantX

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Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:53 PM

Look, it's simple: it's hard to sell bad news. As the years go by since the start of this war, more and more Americans are personally touched by the atrocity of this war--not the strongest motivation to run to the movies to see a story about it.

But again: bad news doesn't sell. American's are looking for escape from their block busters. They're not looking to grapple with insoluble questions and injustices over which they feel they have little or no power. Next!

HKCavalier

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RUE
Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:19 PM

"Look, it's simple: it's hard to sell bad news."

I was about to say the same thing. During the Great Depression people didn't go to watch movies of large number of men looking for work and eating at soup kitchens. No, they went to see frivolous stuff. Even WWII was not popular entertainment (though people did watch the news clips) - and that was true even though the US was 'winning' the war and morale was high.

I think the reasonable response to this would be - well DUH !

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Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:37 PM

It wasn't that great a movie

seen it yesterday, trailer was better than the movie....

but that said

the facts that the movie brought across should be discussed,

such as the lack of support for returning soldiers, and that 81,000 troops have been stop lossed, or in other words had their contracts extended against their will, and were returned to Iraq.

My view, this practice is wrong.... a draft would be better than this nonsense.

or better, have a vote on the war. And those who vote yes go onto a list of eligibility to be drafted.



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Monday, March 31, 2008 1:56 AM

This is the one I've been wanting to check out:

http://www.taxitothedarkside.com/

Anyone here seen it?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

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Monday, March 31, 2008 2:23 AM

And George Clooney wasn't in it.

"Battle of Serenity, Mal. Besides Zoe here, how many-" "I'm talkin at you! How many men in your platoon came out of their alive".

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Monday, March 31, 2008 3:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
or better, have a vote on the war. And those who vote yes go onto a list of eligibility to be drafted.

You know, Gino, I've enjoyed a great number of your posts. This idea has got to be at the top of the heap.

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Monday, March 31, 2008 3:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by canttakesky:
Quote:

Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
or better, have a vote on the war. And those who vote yes go onto a list of eligibility to be drafted.

You know, Gino, I've enjoyed a great number of your posts. This idea has got to be at the top of the heap.

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Force and fraud are in war the two cardinal virtues.
--Thomas Hobbes



I like to think of it as direct democracy one step further. People would have to make a informed decision and support that choice. Have you read Robert Heinlein's Starship Troopers.... there is a line saying they would refuse no volunteers. If you want to serve, a job within your ability will be found for you. Too old for combat service, well someone has to count mess kits and that frees up that guy.



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Monday, March 31, 2008 3:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SergeantX:
This is the one I've been wanting to check out:

http://www.taxitothedarkside.com/

Anyone here seen it?

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock



Looks very interesting, nice trailer

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