Loyalty to the State
POSTED BY: canttakesky
UPDATED: Monday, March 31, 2008 03:34
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Originally posted by SignyM:
Now, will someone have the balls to answer the question?
I did. It depends on what 'doing something' is. Propose something specific instead of asking for a blank check and I'll let you know. Just to set some bounds, putting all children in camps from birth would be going too far. Community education and outreach programs would be OK.
It might also be worthwhile to identify problem areas, rather than just going in with a shotgun approach. For example, you seem to think that homeschooling contributes to increased abuse. Any stats to back that up?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Quote:Frem, either question could easily be disarmed by simply saying: Since terrorists aren't going to attack the United States/ since I don't beat my wife....
Are you willing to do something to prevent terrorists from attacking america? Yes or no?
Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes or no?
But of course kids ARE being abused, and so my question is a fair one: Do you think something should be done, and if so, what?
Quote:I have NOT asked for a "blank check". I have only asked you for YOUR OPINION. Which you will not give.
Propose something specific instead of asking for a blank check and I'll let you know.
The only reason why you and no one else will answer is because you're afraid to say openly what your ideology leads you to.
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"you're afraid to say openly what your ideology leads you to"
:covers eyes:
:covers ears:
:covers mouth: ?
Anyway, SignyM on this thread you are lucky post 13 for the day !
And now I'll leave you all to it. Gotta get on with stuff.
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Yeah me too.
LIBERTARIANS:
covers eyes
covers ears
covers mouth
COVERS BUTT
Who want to talk with a bunch of butt-covering wusses anyway? 
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So, let's all start with the assumption that
1) All posters WANT to prevent child abuse. The question is: Are you willing to DO something about it? And I don't mean "any" amount as in "endless" amount, I mean "some" amount.
2) Furthermore, let us stipulate that no system is perfect.
The question remains: If so, what, how much, and why or why not?
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Quote:I've already answered this question. My answer was YES. The "what" is: build a community.
Originally posted by SignyM:
Sarge, Frem, CTS, BDN et al. Let me be clear about the point of this question: Are you willing to do something to prevent young children from being abused by their parents? Yes or no?.
Since you're back to the board parroting repetitive questions, why don't we go back to mine? WHY IS THAT? (And if you again insist it isn't, please cite code, chapter, and section.)
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Quote:Okay- how?
I've already answered this question. My answer was YES. The "what" is: build a community.
And what authority does the "community" have if it finds a situation of child abuse? Because in the latest example there WAS a community of family members, and they TRIED to wake up mom and dad to the problem, but they had no authority to intervene.
And how long do you think it'll take to build a community? And what do we do in the meantime? Accept the "collateral damage"?
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Hey, Sig, I'm willing to play.
But answer my question first. I answered yours.
Tit for tat, yes?
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This thread's got 290 posts. Let's continue here:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=18&t=33212
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Tit for tat, yes?
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