I hate bein right.

POSTED BY: Fremdfirma
UPDATED: Saturday, March 8, 2008 01:58
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FREDGIBLET

Friday, March 7, 2008 2:17 AM

@Arc

I don't know if you know, but Fremd IS an Anarchist.

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, March 7, 2008 3:11 AM

Indeed.
Still thinkin on it - I've spent many a commentary on how important hope is to people, and how it's lack triggers incidents like this, makes them all but inevitable, and how adding more force and repression accellerates the process like squeezing a handful of sand ever tighter till in the end you're holding nothing at all.

I think the powers that be can only avert things now by positive action, rather than negative, by offering some real, believable signs of hope to the people as a whole, but given their conduct in the last decade or so, I don't hold out much faith in that happening.

Look, for 26 years, I have seen this coming, and tried and tried to change the course of these events, only to find my efforts less and less effective over the years as they grind to a seemingly inevitable conclusion, so what would you have me do ?

How should I feel about watching a slow motion train wreck I could not prevent even knowing two and a half decades in advance not only how it unfolds, but where the pieces will land ?

About all I have left now is the notion to bunker down and hope not to get scored as a collateral of the process - for me this is nightmare come reality, and much as it might seem that I would support some sign of the people as a whole not being completely cowed, I don't think anyone really realizes just how wobbly those ivory towers are, or just how awful the bang could be should they come down.

"Gentlemen, we're very close to true stupidity here!"
-Book

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 7, 2008 5:44 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Kwicko:
No need to patch & paint - just hang a "Mission Accomplished" banner over it, and all will be better soon...

Mike

Fact is, the mission WAS accomplished. Major operations had come to a successful close. Much to the shagrin of those on the Left and those who hate America.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, March 7, 2008 6:45 AM

You think so, do ya ?

Then why are our troops over there getting their ass shot off when they should be HERE ?

It's either over, or it ain't.

AURAPTOR

Friday, March 7, 2008 1:03 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
You think so, do ya ?

Then why are our troops over there getting their ass shot off when they should be HERE ?

It's either over, or it ain't.

Not part of major operations. And , to be more specific, the carrier isn't a part of what's going on there now. The banner was for their crew, not a message for all the military. Yes, more needs to be done, but the heavy liftin part of taking down major components of the Iraqi miliatry, as far as those on the ship are concerened, they did their job. And did it very well. Mission accomplished.

It is not those who use the term "Islamo-Fascism" who are sullying the name of Islam; it is the Islamo-Fascists. - Dennis Prager

" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "

SERGEANTX

Friday, March 7, 2008 1:14 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Fact is, the mission WAS accomplished.

That's even funnier that Hero's bit about the bicyclists.

SergeantX

"Dream a little dream or you can live a little dream. I'd rather live it, cause dreamers always chase but never get it." Aesop Rock

ARCLIGHT

Friday, March 7, 2008 3:39 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by fredgiblet:
[B]@Arc

I don't know if you know, but Fremd IS an Anarchist.

EXACTLY

KWICKO

Friday, March 7, 2008 4:31 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by AURaptor:
Much to the shagrin of those on the Left and those who hate America.

Much to the chagrin of those on the Wrong - er, I mean "right" - and those who can't even spell the word "chagrin".

I don't "hate America" - I hate the fascists who are running it right now - and running it into the goddamn ground. I hate the people like you, who would just as soon wipe your ass with the Constitution, and then want to wrap themselves in the flag to show their "patriotism". The only thing in the world that could make me burn an American flag would be a law forbidding it. This would be purely a protest on my part, because burning the flag doesn't destroy the Constitution for which it stands, but outlawing that same protest is surely one more step toward burning that very Constitution.

I'm done with you, Craptor. I simply refuse to argue with someone who couldn't spell "cat" if you fucking spotted him the "c" and the "t".
Oh, I know - I can hear it already: "Bad spelling isn't any indicator of intelligence." You know who says that? People who are both bad at spelling, and not intelligent. In other words, STUPID PEOPLE. People like you.

Intelligence isn't just a measure of what you know; it's a measure what YOU CAN LEARN. The fact that you've been around the planet this long, and still can't spell your fucking name without looking at your driver's license, tells me that you are simply beneath me, in every possible connotation of the phrase.

I guess it explains why you look up so much to Bush - besides the fact that you're on your knees in front of him to begin with, I mean. You look at Bush and actually see someone you think of as a "smart" person. I look upon him the way I would a well-meaning but ultimately retarded child, with pity for his station in life and pity for the fact that he is just never going to be any smarter than he already is.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

FREMDFIRMA

Friday, March 7, 2008 5:18 PM

Appears to me Arc doesn't know much about Anarchists...

First and foremost, historically, they're really, really terrible at actually blowing anything but themselves successfully - go read up on The Dynamite Terror for more info on that, they're just NO good at it, and never have been.

Somehow the idea of some incompetent nincompoop lobbing a bomb at me that almost asssuredly would have gone off during construction were it effectively functional doesn't exactly frighten me.

Contrast that to having your apartment and possessions torn to shreds by an overeager bunch of state-sponsored jackboots, and being hauled away and "arrested for resisting arrest" and then held without bail for two years worth of postponements till the state has utterly destroyed your life, relationship, career and education, and then dumps you out on your ear without so much as an "oops." - as happened to my buddy Drake, who decided he didn't much like America after that and moved on out to Iceland.

His "Crime" ?

A stiff letter to the editor of a local newsrag about their positions on drug legalisation, apparently they didn't realize he was a freakin health nut and did not partake of intoxicants himself.

I dunno about you, but in this day and age the latter is far more plausible, and common, than the former, and more frightening because of it.

The only terrorists that strike fear into me, are the ones running this country.

-Frem
It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

KWICKO

Friday, March 7, 2008 6:32 PM

Thanks, Frem - the more I hear from you, the more I find myself saying, "Exactly! Fremmie GETS IT!" I might not call myself an Anarchist (at least not just yet), but I find myself at least thumbing through the brochures... ;)

Quote:
The only terrorists that strike fear into me, are the ones running this country.

There's the best quote of the week, right there. I might have to borrow that (credited to you, of course) for my newest siggy line.

Mike

"I supported Bush in 2000 and 2004 and intellegence[sic] had very little to do with that decision." - Hero, Real World Event Discussions

I can't help the sinking feeling that my country is now being run by people who read "1984" not as a cautionary tale, but rather as an instruction manual. - Michael Mock

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