Imponderables: God Loves Ugly

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 3, 2008 5:42 PM

Can explain title of thread later. For now, welcome everyone.

Thread previous:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=32737&m=589023#589023

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

SISTER

Monday, March 3, 2008 5:43 PM

firsties!

ZEEK

Monday, March 3, 2008 5:44 PM

secondsies!!!

NOBLEBROWNCOAT

Monday, March 3, 2008 5:58 PM

Quote:

Can explain title of thread later. For now, welcome everyone.

Is it in reference to the Atmosphere album? Good CD for those of you who are interested in Rap that isn't womanizing and materialistic.

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Monday, March 3, 2008 6:19 PM

*pouncehuggles Neko and wishes he was a lot closer to where she is now*

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

And so it is that we, as men, do not exist until we do; and then it is that we play with our world of existent things, and order and disorder them, and so it shall be that Non-existence shall take us back from Existence, and that nameless Spirituality shall return to Void, like a tired child home from a very wild circus.

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

MSB

Monday, March 3, 2008 6:49 PM

HUGS poor Neko. I am so sorry sweety. Life just never runs smooth does it??? Hey what's that...no putting down my friend. You do not chase the good ones off... if they are too stupid to recognize how wonderful and great you are, that's their stupid fault!!!

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Monday, March 3, 2008 7:03 PM

Neko, I may not be remembering correctly but I think you're the one with the long distance relationship. Don't go blaming yourself if the long distance thing went to hell in a handbasket. Those things are just doomed from the get go IMO.

MSB

Monday, March 3, 2008 7:06 PM

Wow...such a cheery little ray of sunshine this morning Zeek... need a hug?

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Monday, March 3, 2008 7:14 PM

Nope just being honest. I've seen way too many long distance relationships fail. I mean unless there's a pretty quick end in sight (6 months or less I'd say) I just don't see them working. I'm sure there are exceptions, but in general that seems to be the rule.

The silver lining is that it's nothing Neko did or didn't do. It's just the circumstances.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 3, 2008 7:22 PM

Yup NBC, It is a referance to the Atmosphere album (Hands NBC a cookie) No, it's not the condecending cookie of "good job moron", it's the enlightened cookie for folks who know good music.

Just had a wierd dream that made me feel kinda ugly this morning. But I happened to catch Atmosphere in the random choosings of my media player this morning and felt a little better.

How is it we can feel guilty for the crappy things we do in our dreams? Stuff we would never do IRL not even if the circumstances were different. Just wondering.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Monday, March 3, 2008 7:32 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
How is it we can feel guilty for the crappy things we do in our dreams? Stuff we would never do IRL not even if the circumstances were different. Just wondering.

I think part of that might come from not wanting people to know you are even dreaming about that kind of thing. Maybe it's a bit of learned tact (for lack of a better word) that gets ingrained in us before we start really thinking for ourselves. *shrug* Or I could be full of sh*t and talking out of my *ss.

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

And so it is that we, as men, do not exist until we do; and then it is that we play with our world of existent things, and order and disorder them, and so it shall be that Non-existence shall take us back from Existence, and that nameless Spirituality shall return to Void, like a tired child home from a very wild circus.

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 3, 2008 7:36 PM

I kinda figured it that way. Just strange how I completely felt like an asshole waking this morning. Dirty bad. Like I deserved to feel bad.

Meh. Anyways my 'puter is being funny. All I can access is FFF and nothing else. Wierdness? You be the judge.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Monday, March 3, 2008 7:48 PM

It could be worse, your computer could be only able to access www.bigbrotherseason8isthebestshowever.com

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

And so it is that we, as men, do not exist until we do; and then it is that we play with our world of existent things, and order and disorder them, and so it shall be that Non-existence shall take us back from Existence, and that nameless Spirituality shall return to Void, like a tired child home from a very wild circus.

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 3, 2008 8:02 PM

Tempted to click but resisted. Feel a bit soggy in the gut as it will still be a bit bfore tv quality goes up. If it gets better I might watch again. For now I'll continue with Red Dwarf and wait for further fixes of Torchwood and Doctor Who.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Monday, March 3, 2008 8:06 PM

HUGS NV... probably because too many people tell you that dreams are subconscious manifestations of desires ( which is crap) it's just your brain presenting you with images it wants to think over... no motives.... besides we all know what a wonderful guy you are:)

OK must scream quietly now...

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Monday, March 3, 2008 9:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
probably because too many people tell you that dreams are subconscious manifestations of desires ( which is crap)

You're telling me I don't want to watch a superbowl of the Bears vs. the Eagles (impossible NFC vs NFC matchup) where a no name Bears wide receiver scores an incredible go ahead touchdown and then ends up looking like my brother's doppleganger when they're interviewing him later? Is that what you're trying to say?

This dream brought to you by Zeek's crazy mind last night.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 3, 2008 10:27 PM

Well, back at work, kept getting calls from folks while on lunch and that was enough to negate the five minute nap, kid ran away, tech's are incompetant and made me look like a dumbass in front of the police chief, realized that I forgot to wash my hair this morning, and my tech's are dumbasses.

Other than that the e-mail is gone to doing dick again.

Did I mention my tech's are dumbasses?

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Monday, March 3, 2008 10:47 PM

HUGS NV...oh that sucks ( sadly you already knew your techs are dumbasses... but it always irritates you when it's confirmed by others)

Yes Zeek that's just what I meant... there's no subconscious anything...just weird:)

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Monday, March 3, 2008 10:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Yes Zeek that's just what I meant... there's no subconscious anything...just weird:)

So crazy dreams don't happen for a reason? There's your answer I guess. Deep down you don't believe that everything happens for a reason

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Monday, March 3, 2008 11:04 PM

I don't know. I get anxiety dreams when things bother me.

My personal favourite was just before my first year University exams. I had a dream I was in my old secondary school hall (where we did all our exams) and the desk I was sitting at went on fire! I had no fear of being burned, I was just frustrated I couldn't get my paper done!

Speaking of things bothering me, Immigration called into our school to do a "spot check" that was in noooo way a spot check. They full on interrogated a workmate, and asked a lot of questions that bothered me. The director passed it off as just a routine check, but I'm not happy. I've been through every kind of inspection and audit under the sun. This was like no inspection I've ever seen.

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 3, 2008 11:09 PM

They're looking for aliens. No. Real aliens that slipped through the rift.

Needs some music and drinks. Think I'll just work on markers after work.

ADD> Made me feel better. Not Safe For Work but f*ck it, I don't give two sh*ts!!!

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Monday, March 3, 2008 11:21 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
They're looking for aliens. No. Real aliens that slipped through the rift.

Ha! Yes they are, and I know why!

Because every day someone with poor attendance comes to me and wants me to "do something about it." and will sit there waiting for me to come up with some sort of magic solution for them.

And every day, my reaction is the same: "What frikin' planet are you on???"

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 3, 2008 11:26 PM

See. It might be unofficial proof but what is your usual answer?

Really though, why do people try playing off the emotions or sensibilities of others? I might seem accomodating to the needs of our pregnant staff, but what keeps me from putting the boots to them? Nothing! It just pisses me off that they seem to expect me to be a little sensitive when the F up. What the hell for? It'll be a matter of time before I have to take disciplinar action and will have to research and consult on what working to use so's not to chance a discrimination suit. Oh fricken boy.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Monday, March 3, 2008 11:28 PM

They are all spawned on the planet " No Way in Hell" and for some reason many of it's inhabitants choose to move here....

HUGS to all and I am headed out:)

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Monday, March 3, 2008 11:29 PM

Loves hon. We have a good contingent of the same populus here too.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Monday, March 3, 2008 11:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
See. It might be unofficial proof but what is your usual answer?

If they come to me with attendance issues? Honestly? 99% of the time my reaction starts with "tough" and ends with "-it." I'm sick to the eye teeth of students taking the p*ss when it comes to going to class. They just don't take it seriously. They'll use absolutely any excuse not to bother going - and then they get mad at us for not giving them credit for being sick or at work or whatever. WTF???

...which is why I was surprised at the tone of the investigation. I know there are a core of poor students, but the college itself always seemed straight up - dreadfully naive in their first yea, sure, but still honest and compliant with immigration law. But after this? Not so sure.

The biggest issue I had is that they wanted information on several students I didn't think *were* students. I thought they were full time employees. Now I'm there about three months, and these guys are in a different building, so I don't know for certain if they were working more than twenty hours. BUT... I got the impression they were.

I haven't confronted the director yet (and I heard that immigration told him to fire the people involved) but... I gave out yards to students who worked more than the 20 hours allowed under the terms of their visa. Full blown lectures. If I found out the college was breaking the very same law? Not only would I leave, I'd shop them to immigration myself. How do they expect any student to obey the rules if they don't? I'd rather be unemployed than a hypocrite.

That's worse case scenario though. I'll see if there's any truth to the rumours I've heard first.

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 12:03 AM

At least you are making a conscious effort to show your own sensibilities. Imagine how many other people in the faculty are cowering at the thought of such consequence. Screw 'em. It's good to know that someone is willing to state the case rather than hide from it.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

DESKTOPHIPPIE

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 12:09 AM

True. But then I was hired to pretty much sort all this crap out. Recently that's mostly involved going to the director and saying "the students are not the biggest problem. Here is what ~you~ need to change!"

Already I'm torn between sticking it out and helping them change for the better or just giving up on the place. Knowing they broke the law would definitely push me out the door. It would be proof positive my job there is just impossible.

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NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 12:21 AM

Heh. Kinda funny how we are all in the same boat. It is our matter fully to make sure our facilities are in compliance and are servicing our clientele to the fullest extent. Of course support from administration sure would be fricken nice now wouldn't it.

I know Browncoat Island might be a better choice but there is a place called Indepenence Valley between here and Salt Lake. Sure it isn't tropical but it is sixty miles from the nearest Wal Mart and is damn pretty. Might make due 'til the finalities are made for the island move.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 12:35 AM

HUGS DTH always nice when somehow we're expected to perform miracles....sigh well hang in there and check it out first. I've just been a victim of the jump to conclusions based on rumors....

NV hey I'll follow you anywhere:)

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 12:38 AM

Yay!!!

(Runs around in small circles due to having a small office)

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 2:00 AM

But you knew that already

I need not to be here....I really need to be home.

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

SPACEANJL

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 11:48 AM

Hey, DTH, I got a college story for you.

Imagine a college that takes on a number of foreign students from various countries. The ones that can pay a whole wedge of cash up front get a certificate that claims to be a proper qualification (but has no real standing, being run off a printer in an upstairs office.) The ones that can't pay are given 'part-time' jobs as cleaning staff - six and a half day weeks, that prevent them from ever attending any lectures that might benefit them.

Now imagine being the administrator told to make up a course title and register these folks so that the college can claim some money for them.

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 12:59 PM

mornin' Imponderables.

:)

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

And so it is that we, as men, do not exist until we do; and then it is that we play with our world of existent things, and order and disorder them, and so it shall be that Non-existence shall take us back from Existence, and that nameless Spirituality shall return to Void, like a tired child home from a very wild circus.

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 4:19 PM

Good morning people. Might be out for a bit this morning. Doing a favor for my buddy John. Taking his brother in law to sign divorce papers. Yay. Could be worse though. Could be running to pay on the books so John can get a candy bar from commissary.
See. Things do work out for a certain way (occasionally).

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 4:29 PM

HUGS Jimi... so nice to see you happy:)

Anjl...seriously?? Wow that sounds so ...academic...
Diploma mills irritate me. I busted my butt to get my degrees... everyone else should have to as well:)

HUSG NV.. you're such a good friend.

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:10 PM

Well, the dumbass went to work at seven and forgot to tell everyone. Its all good though. Seems further arrangements were amde and he has a ride to sign and be done with it all. He does not want to pay child support but still wants visitation even though he pretty much has ignored her since she was born. Oh well. Hopefully he returns to Oklahoma and doesn't attempt to return.

Either way i got a nice greasy breakfast and some gas money out of it. Although I think the breakfast may be able to sustain me longer than expected.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:16 PM

Ah the I don't care enough to make sure you have food and a roof over your head, but I'd still like to see you sometime parenting plan... yeah like that'll happen

oooh sustaining breakfast...sounds nummy:)

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 6:46 PM

Breakfast. I haven't had that in a good while, not anything decent anyhow. I kinda miss it.

Here's hoping it's less rainy and thingsnotworkingout-y than it is here for everyone.

*snuggles MsB*

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else: What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I f*ck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

MSB

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 7:03 PM

breakfast...used to like it. Then I lived with my parents and my mom made me breakfast every day ( which sounds so nice) but it was exactly the same breakfast every day... now I attempt to avoid it.

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

SPACEANJL

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 7:51 PM

Oooh, breakfast...

Home-made sour-cream pancakes with maple syrup and bacon

Full English with strong tea

Fresh mango slices with nutmeg syrup

Crisp hot toast with home-made marmalade

Perfectly soft-boiled egg and soldiers

Hot porridge with cold cream and honey

Idli with coconut chutney

Croissants dipped in hot chocolate

What's not to like?

ps the college story? That's why I resigned. That, and the little psycho with a gun who had all the dead animals in his shower...

MSB

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:00 PM

were the animals dead before he showered with them???

HUGS Anjl.. yeah education the best job in the world...

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 8:32 PM

Mmmm breakfast honey nut cheerios

MSB

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 9:01 PM

LOl you're all breakfast freaks:)

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Tuesday, March 4, 2008 10:00 PM

Nope, just a freak.

Yeah, I like breakfast more late at night or the morning after a good drinking session. A good potato scramble with egg, meat, and cheese. Maybe pancakes and sausage links. Or buffet with a little of everything (especially corned beef hash with crispy edges included, Yummmmm). Still love corn chex and toast or old fashioned oatmeal with toast the best.

Okay, breakfast freak over here.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 2:19 AM

yeah , but you're my freak..

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

AVENGINGWATCHER

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 3:07 AM

Yay, apparently I am the only student in this chat, but I know where you guys are coming from. I am as they would say "gifted" so I tend to be far ahead of my classes and tend to know slightly more than some of my teachers and far more than most of the students, so I get along well with my teachers and help a lot of the other students. Teachers confide in me the struggles of students and sometimes I really just don't think they are hard enough. If someone misses most of their assignments for no valid reason why should the teacher have to make up that slack. I mean if I can work full time at night while maintaining above a 3.0 in a double major they should be able to handle 4 classes a semester while living at home. Okay done complaining about other dumb students!

You guys have way more interesting dreams than I do. I just solve problems and dream about my wife...isn't that sad I can't even dream about another woman, my wife is actually my dream girl..har har har aren't I punny?

When there are no heroes where will we turn?

MSB

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 3:09 AM

Oh I think we have a few college students around...

You're way past my grade level..I teach junior high 7-9th grade:)

Good to see someone taking studying seriously though:)

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

DANCINGNEKO

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:03 AM

Breakfast? Did someone say breakfast?

've found that I can't function without breaking fast...otherwise I'm tired, dragging, and easily cranky.

I don't mind too much about the lack of variety of my breakfasts when I make 'em, since it's something I like eating and it's easy to make when I'm still a walking zombie...

(Sorry for being a bit slow on responding...)

Zeek: It wasn't a real LDR...but more of a friendship that could become more if one of moved to where the other was (in a year or five)...and with everything going on, I was considering reducing the timeline to sometime this year...

MsB: :P' I gotta introduce you to some of my ex's...then you'd see why I'm so critical... :P' (Edited: Apparently I'm right again...my taste in men SUCKS... 'scuse me while I go and bury myself.)

Ugh...accrediation meeting today and "lucky me," I got to be one of those being asked about the school... Wish I had been mean, bitter, and nasty enough to list some my big issues with where I work, but since I don't want to burn the bridge I'm standing on, I think my answers were "nice" enough.

AVENGINGWATCHER

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:07 AM

Well it's about time I did :p My wife would kill me if I didn't do well. My mother in law is a teacher in Texas, my uncle is a teacher, my best friends wife is a teacher, some of my teachers are friends. I didn't say I took studies seriously though, I like school, but I just got lucky and wound up with an ability to learn extraordinarily fast because I break everything into patterns and logical systems, that and I have some bipolar moments, sometimes it takes a lot for me just to get to school because I get so sad and it is painful to be around people and other times I can't sleep for days. Blessing and a curse,it isn't so bad if I can keep myself busy, but like I said I'm "gifted" so I can bored easily and have to take on extra projects or tutor other students to keep myself sane. I'd love to teach but I get so sick of administration and politicians telling teachers what to teach....it really perturbs me to say the least.

Neko, you sound an awful lot like my ex and I know what she goes through so I feel for you( Just remembered shes a teacher too...damn how many teachers do I know?)Hey if it makes you feel any better you could bludgeon me. My wife already toughened me up so I can take it ;)Oh yeah and the problem with men is that we tend to think like men and women think like women... it's kinda like how sometimes you gotta rip off that ground prong to make it fit in the two prong, so I guess what I am saying is ermmm...rip his prong off;)

When there are no heroes where will we turn?

MSB

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:01 PM

HUGS Neko... ah accreditation joy. Time to put on a happy face and do the song and dance of stupid:)

HUGS to all

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:38 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dancingneko:
my taste in men SUCKS... 'scuse me while I go and bury myself.)

details! details!

Obviously you don't have to explain if you don't want to, but this thread is all about trying to figure stuff out. Maybe with all the imponderers combined we can help point something out that will help you find your perfect man.

MSB

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:43 PM

or we could just build her a man bot..

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:53 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
or we could just build her a man bot..

"bzzzzt time to watch sportcenter bzzzzt *belch* bzzzzt what's for dinner? bzzzzzt"

Yeah I think we could make that.

MSB

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:54 PM

LOL Zeek... I love the sound effects:)

So what have you been up to??

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

DANCINGNEKO

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 4:55 PM

Zeek: Thanks, but...
I'm pissed at myself for letting myself take a person I thought I knew (for several years) at face value...that what they meant what they said.
Thought I was beat-down enough with everything this school year, then I get an extra kick to the gut and teeth....

MsB: I think I'll pass on the man-bot...right now, man-bot, hoo-mans, etc. are all of the evil...(I must remember to thank the schools for learning these things...'cause we all know how schools are to be the fount of everything we learn...[ /sarcasm])

Btw, NVG: If the title was true, then "God" must be working really hard to make me "loveable" on the inside, 'cause I am becoming ering ugly on the inside. (Hard, brittle, and mean too.)

Okay...going to stop ranting...someone just stick a fork in me, then bury me and be fusking done with it already.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 5:22 PM

Oh 'Neko hon, it is exactly what the song is about.

http://www.lyricsdownload.com/atmosphere-god-loves-ugly-lyrics.html

Someone put down by everyone but more by themselves trying not to make it big hust in the world but with themselves. It's a struggle and it sucks donkey ass. But it has to be worth it in the end. God loves ugly because it is the realization of how beautiful we are and letting other people know that makes the world worth contiuing on.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 5:26 PM

Can't say as I've seen you about AW but welcome to our shiny little thread.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 5:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
LOL Zeek... I love the sound effects:)

So what have you been up to??

I've been gathering computer parts. I finally got the last one I needed yesterday and then I went to poker night instead of finishing off my new machine. I'm all antsy now and I really don't want to be at work. How come there are no snow days in the middle of TX when you need one?

There's some potential that the newer style of processor I got won't work with my mother board right out of the box. That's really what's eating at me. I want to find out if I'm hosed or not. *Zeek stares at the clock and rocks back and forth in his chair waiting for quittin time*

Quote:
Originally posted by Dancingneko:
Zeek: Thanks, but...
I'm pissed at myself for letting myself take a person I thought I knew (for several years) at face value...that what they meant what they said.
Thought I was beat-down enough with everything this school year, then I get an extra kick to the gut and teeth....

Oh psssh. You can't blame yourself for not knowing a guy's lying to you. That's just being a trusting person and it's not a bad quality. I think that the only way to find a good relationship means you have to open yourself up to being hurt. It's the risk vs. reward. Keep your chin up.

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 5:49 PM

Now I kind of understand the meaning behind "keep our chin up". Normally you must keep your chin down and your hands up for a proper guard. Risk versus reward.

Too bad so many of my male counterparts are such asshats. Adds to the suckage of helping where I can not. But then again I tend to lean in the direstion of nutshots and headbutts so...

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

ZEEK

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 5:55 PM

shameless plug

I actually don't know if I'm supposed to be plugging. I'm sure there will be plugging later, but this is just for my imponderable buddies for now.

Browncoat Ball 2008 registration is open http://www.browncoatball.com/2008/index.htm

Check out the shiny site and the list of events at least. I'm eying the bad guy track myself, but there's fun for all from the looks of it. I haven't even signed up yet, but I'm sure I'll be going. I know all the planner people from the Austin Browncoat group and they're all real nice. I'm sure they'll be willing to answer questions for you or you can just ask me and I'll talk to them for you.

Anyway I think any of you that have the means to make it should come on out for the ball. It'll be a ball hehehe (had to say it)

/shameless plug

MSB

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 7:18 PM

HUGS Neko I am so sorry. It's always terrible when someone you trusted hurts you because it doesn't just hurt, it damages your confidence in your ability to read people and situations and it makes you feel small... I wish I could stomp that evil man to dust!!! He deserves it for what he's done. You so didn't need this with all the other stuff going on. But I can promise there are good guys out there and things do get better.... after 11 years of wasting my time I got really lucky and I know you will too!!

NV in thanks for his wonderfulness

Zeek.. oh I wish , but with the move and all the money spent and the saving for D*C I can't make it... sigh maybe next year

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 10:52 PM

(Wonders where everyone went)

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

DANCINGNEKO

Wednesday, March 5, 2008 11:58 PM

NVG:...insane...(oh, wait that's just me)

*wonders if it would be a crime to cause the students to start stressing out with the material, language, and speed that they should be at and cause massive, spontaneous explosions and implosions*

MsB: Don't tell me if you do...still have feelings for him (I don't hate him...gah.)

Zeek: Feeling waaaaay too vulnerable as is from work beating me down (and having no time to do anything else)...and since I no longer trust myself (or anyone else much, for that matter)...I feel sorry for anyone who is trying to win me over...

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Thursday, March 6, 2008 1:36 PM

mornin' Imponderables.

I am considering going to the Browncoat Ball this year. A bunch of 76thers are going, and the people putting it on are our members too, so we should have a good showing.

*glomps Neko* So sorry to hear of your troubles, doll. E-mail me if you just want to talk about anything.

*snuggles MsB*

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else: What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

MSB

Thursday, March 6, 2008 3:13 PM

Ok Neko I won't tell you... and besides I'm making Jimi and his roommate dispose of the body...

HUGS Jimi

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

ZEEK

Thursday, March 6, 2008 4:35 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by RiverIsMyGoddess:
I am considering going to the Browncoat Ball this year. A bunch of 76thers are going, and the people putting it on are our members too, so we should have a good showing.

They're nice folks aren't they? Beth's a little crazy and all but she's a good leader. She's got browncoat events rolling here.

MSB

Thursday, March 6, 2008 4:38 PM

Sounds fun:)

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, March 6, 2008 4:58 PM

Good morning people. I love Browncoat events and support as much as I can. But this weekends shoot left a bad taste in my mouth. I know one of the leapord print jersey wearing f^#*rags is a BC merely by the naming of his marker. Can anyone guess what the prince of originality named it?

Anyway I've been having these illogical spots of anger that really don't lead much of anywhere. It sucks. As explained to MSB I was driving in an alley behind downtown and was wishing someone would start something. I'd entertain them by trading fists but just so I could have the supreme satisfaction with palming their head and making it a permenant fixture in the brick wall. Strangely there is no real anger involved but the will to dominate some dirty POS just suited the thought. Kinda realized that it had to do with the mention of someone I am quickly beginning to despise. Chances are it is just lingering anger of what I can't change about that person. It is coming to the point where my only concern is the money owed to me. But then again a few grand will do that to a person.

ARRRGGGHHHH!!! Now I just want to break some kneecaps and collect fingers. Gotta go blow off some steam.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

MSB

Thursday, March 6, 2008 5:06 PM

ooh ooh I guess... Kaylee ( just kidding)

It's always frustrating when a friend disappoints you... but when they do it over and over and show no sign of remorse for taking from you and never returning the favor... it's really something that makes you angry
Wish this wasn't happening...

Also wish the coach hadn't gone on morning announcements and told everyone I am leaving. I was waiting to tell the kids until a few days before because of the reaction... most of them have decided since I am leaving, they don't have to behave at all so they are a lot worse than usual.... Coach meant well... did a speech about how I will be missed and told the kids and such to thank me for what I have done, but it really wasn't so great...sigh

HUGS to all

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

NVGHOSTRIDER

Thursday, March 6, 2008 5:11 PM

Guess we should just start lining folks up against the wall then huh.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

DANCINGNEKO

Thursday, March 6, 2008 8:01 PM

MsB, are you sure that your administration and mine aren't in cahoots with each other?
Mine decided to make an impossible request while slamming one of our clerks...("When you enter in the students' attendance, could you please enter if it is an excused or unexcused absence/tardy? 'Pueo' is having a hard time with taking care of everything that needs to be done and I'm constantly sitting with h** to make sure that its done with efficiency...") *rolls eyes*
I can't believe that coach did that...(oh, wait, your school and mine are so similar right now, that yes I can...) I have no doubt that coach might have had the best of intentions, but really...is he that clueless?

*sigh* Spring break can't come soon enough...nor stay for long enough...
[edited to remove footnote numbers]

MSB

Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:21 PM

Sadly Neko..yes he is that clueless...
On the upside my district people rock!! The HR director allowed me to change my leave date and didn't penalize me the $1000 so I can leave when I want and not have to pay for it... this is gonna piss my principal off no end so this day has turned out nicely...

Plus I might have a house to rent... thanks to help from someone very sweet NV

Now I just gotta get about a million things done in 2 weeks

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

DANCINGNEKO

Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:52 PM

...and now for something completely random...

http://procreo.jp/labo/flower_garden.swf

click your mouse almost anywhere on the screen...hell, click and drag.

Very girly, and definitely a way to help brighten the day even more (I got an email from a friend that mentioned this site...)

Yep, your HR director rawks! Okay...now I need to make sure that some things get mailed out before I run away on spring break...

ZEEK

Thursday, March 6, 2008 9:58 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dancingneko:
now I need to make sure that some things get mailed out before I run away on spring break...

*immediately pictures "Neko gone wild in cancun"*

Have a blast!

MSB

Thursday, March 6, 2008 11:29 PM

OK so cool.. I could while away some time with that:)

HUGS Neko... I say you get wild and crazy...you need it:)

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

FUTUREMRSFILLION

Friday, March 7, 2008 1:50 AM

meep

I am on The List. We are The Forsaken and we aim to burn!
"We don't fear the reaper"

FORSAKEN original

MSB

Friday, March 7, 2008 1:56 AM

HUGS FMF.... hey gorgeous.. you've been missed. How have you been?

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

AVENGINGWATCHER

Friday, March 7, 2008 3:57 AM

Hi all...it's been a pretty shiny day for me, the wifey admitted she's a browncoat to me today. Trust me this is big in my universe. So one more to our ranks! Yay...now time for another season gorram it. Random question anyone know where I can find a detailed description of ships that are canon?

When there are no heroes where will we turn?

DANCINGNEKO

Friday, March 7, 2008 9:08 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:
Originally posted by Dancingneko:
now I need to make sure that some things get mailed out before I run away on spring break...

*immediately pictures "Neko gone wild in cancun"*

Have a blast!

*blinks owlishly at Zeek*
You do realize that I live in Hawaii, right? Why would I want to go to Cancun, since I live in "paradise"?

*blinks again at both Zeek and MsB*
Umm....work's wild enough for me, thanks...relaxation is more my speed right now...*shifty eyes* Unless you're trying to kidnap me and subject me to that kind of stuff? *rearranges plans for spring break to Mal's bunk*

Edit: Hi AvengingWatcher (sorry, sorry didn't mean to ignore you)....Yay for both you and your wifey for being 'coats.

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Friday, March 7, 2008 1:25 PM

mornin' Imponderables.

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
and besides I'm making Jimi and his roommate dispose of the body...

Yeah, we need the practice.

Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
They're nice folks aren't they? Beth's a little crazy and all but she's a good leader. She's got browncoat events rolling here.

All of the Houston Browncoats that I know are great. I don't know Beth all that well, but I talk to her on the 76th forums sometimes. Lost_Though and ArtCat are from that area too, I think.

Quote:
Originally posted by avengingwatcher:
Random question anyone know where I can find a detailed description of ships that are canon?

I'm not 100% certain, but I think there are some in the role-playing game. I have it at home and can check it for you this weekend if you like.

Neko, you can come here and relax for your spring break if you want to. I mean, rural middle Georgia is nothing compared to the paradise you live in, but I'm sure we could think of something fun to do.

*snuggles MsB*

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else: What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

ZEEK

Friday, March 7, 2008 2:28 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Dancingneko:
Quote:
Originally posted by Zeek:
Quote:
Originally posted by Dancingneko:
now I need to make sure that some things get mailed out before I run away on spring break...

*immediately pictures "Neko gone wild in cancun"*

Have a blast!

*blinks owlishly at Zeek*
You do realize that I live in Hawaii, right? Why would I want to go to Cancun, since I live in "paradise"?

No I didn't realize. Um of course you'd go to Cancun for the drunken craziness. All you get in Hawaii is the cast of Lost speeding all over the place while intoxicated (that's about the only news I hear coming out of Hawaii).

MSB

Friday, March 7, 2008 3:56 PM

HUGS all

Y'all should start a service J&J body disposal... if the cash is there, we do not care:)

Neko- well if you insist... we could kidnap you for a wild Mal weekend:)

2 weeks... I have never had 2 weeks seem so short and yet so incredibly long

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Friday, March 7, 2008 4:49 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by MSB:
Y'all should start a service J&J body disposal... if the cash is there, we do not care:)

That sounds like a great idea, and I love the slogan !!! :)

*snuggles MsB*

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else: What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

AVENGINGWATCHER

Friday, March 7, 2008 4:49 PM

Riverismygoddess: Thanks!

When there are no heroes where will we turn?

NVGHOSTRIDER

Friday, March 7, 2008 5:14 PM

Good morning peoples. Rushing a bit here as I have to look at a house, get a co2 fill, gas up the truck, and find food during lunch hour today. What fun!!!

(Leaves hugs for MSB)

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Friday, March 7, 2008 6:03 PM

AW - I'll let you know what I find.

*leaves a BCMW handshake thingy for NvG* Good luck with your seemingly hectic day, man.

*snuggles MsB*

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else: What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

MSB

Friday, March 7, 2008 6:07 PM

Ok I feel a bit guilty as some of the rushing is my fault. He's looking at the house for me... NV you are just the sweetest.

Well honestly I think the service industry is really lacking in this area Jimi... and come on, who among us wouldn't take advantage of a service that would dispose of those pesky unwanted corpses...

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Friday, March 7, 2008 6:17 PM

Aight, I'll go ahead and start taking preliminary orders now.

If you've got a human corpse that you need taken care of discreetly, call J&J body disposal. We make them disappear quickly and quietly. If the cash is there, we do not care.

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else: What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

MSB

Friday, March 7, 2008 6:20 PM

See it's so the perfect job for you both!!! HUGS Jimi. I may have a few for you... might not be able to get through this day without stacking the bodies up like cord wood....

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Friday, March 7, 2008 6:32 PM

We might also have to make a pamphlet about doing some of the preliminary work ourselves, unless we include travel fees in our costs.

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else: What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

NVGHOSTRIDER

Sunday, March 9, 2008 12:32 AM

Wow, quiet weekend. Must have been the cord wood comment.

Gots mad skillz, loves playing with matches.

LEOPARDFLAN

Sunday, March 9, 2008 2:59 AM

Will J&J body disposal do live bodies, or would I have to kill them first?

#~%~~*~~~&~~~*~~%~#\/#~%~~*~~~&~~~*~~%~#

\~~~*~~^~~*~~~/$$\~~~*~~^~~*~~~/
98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.

MSB

Sunday, March 9, 2008 4:22 AM

NV... oh ha ha

Leopard( ok still adjusting to this name) naw...Jimi's roommate ( and likely Jimi) are more than happy to dispatch people for you..

HUGS Jimi

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Ain't Love GRAND!!!

LEOPARDFLAN

Monday, March 10, 2008 2:15 AM

Yea!

What's the limit of targets?

#~%~~*~~~&~~~*~~%~#\/#~%~~*~~~&~~~*~~%~#

\~~~*~~^~~*~~~/$$\~~~*~~^~~*~~~/
98% of teens have smoked pot, if you are one of the 2% that haven't, copy this into your signature.

CHOLLETT

Monday, March 10, 2008 8:09 AM

Alrighty then!

It's late/early here (1 am, and counting, but i'm a college student so this is, unfortunately, normal....) , but I gots me a ponderable.

Do you think it's best to enter a relationship with someone soon after you meet them, or to get to know them first? I know the answer could seem obvious, but here's my sitch:

I like to get to know girls first before I think about asking them out, but falling under the general heading of a "nice guy", by the time i get to know them/vice verse, they ALWAYS only see me as a friend, for whatever reason, be it simply that or because they don't want to ruin the friendship. I mean, that I get, but when you're 19, male, and hormones a'ragin' whether you like it or not, it can get a mite frustrating. In particular, there's a girl (i talked about her in an early, EARLY imponderables thread about 2 years ago) who i went to high school with, lost contact with for most of a year once i graduated, and then reestablished contact with, and she's one of my very best friends. She's told me before that i'm just a very good friend, but recently i decided to tell her once, outright, that i like her. A la Jim (The Office, S.2, Casino Night, just not as dramatic). I emphasized the point that the utmost priority is retaining our friendship, which is absolutely true, but my ponderable still stands.

What say you?

Wow, i really hate writing about a sitch straight out of teenage cliche, but there you have it.

I'm babbling like a moonbrain.

RIVERISMYGODDESS

Monday, March 10, 2008 12:17 PM

mornin' Imponderables.

MsB is right, we'll definitely dispatch them as well as deal with the bodies, we have package deals for that sort of thing. As for a limit, well, I'd say that the only real one is that we won't kill any of our own families or close friends.

Chollett, I'm right there with you on being a "nice guy". I'd always make friends with the girl, then nothing more. I was the one in high school who the girl would come to to cry about asshole #1 leaving her, then her plotting and scheming with me to get asshole #2 to like her. *sigh* To answer your ponderable, I still think it's a good idea to get to know someone before you get too much into a relationship with them. I've rushed into things before, and it definitely isn't the way for me.

*snuggles MsB*

~jimi
Lt. Alexander - Chief Medic / XO Alpha Co. / Logistics & Transportation Specialist - 76th IAB

About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else: What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I fuck, what I take into my body - as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?

xBox 360 GamerTag: Swinger420

JONNYQUEST

Monday, March 10, 2008 2:55 PM

Mornin' all.

Hi, Jimi. I'm sorta with you on this one. And sorta not.

I've been the friend, too. Oy. Love hath no pain like a love unrequited. Unless you count love lost.

I say if you are "romantically" interested in a girl, it should not be a secret from the start. Let that be the "goal". The method toward that goal is the "getting to know you, getting to know all about you" part. As you get to know one another better, you'll find out if there's a fit. If there's no fit, you can back out quickly and honestly and move on. Bees don't get their pollen all from the same flower. If on the other hand there is a fit, you can follow it as far as it leads. Here's where I part company (but I bet not really) with Jimi. There's no reason to rush in. Don't get attached until the fit is sure. Don't fall for her just because she said yes. Whores will say yes, but that doesn't mean they are for you. Companions say yes, too, but they are chosing you, you're not chosing them. Yes only means let's give it a shot. Your ranging hormones are NOT your heart. Give your heart only to the one you really want.

By the way, Chollett, nice to meet you.

As for the J&J thing, I haven't read up on it all. I'll have to get back to you.

When was the last time we had an underwear thread? I only ask because I came across a product yesterday that profoundly disturbed me and I need to put it in front of the group for discussion. Because, well, I need to understand:

EDIT - (picture gone, but you can still see it on the shelf in stores.)

Does that seem right to you?
(of course, now I'm even more disturbed: the image comes straight out of Amazon...!)

Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself, I am large, I contain multitudes. - Walt Whitman

- Vote Causal/JonnyQuest, for Benevolent Co-Dictator of Earth; together, toward a brighter tomorrow!

SPACEANJL

Monday, March 10, 2008 3:41 PM

That is all kinds of wrong, JQ. The picture, not the other response.

Chollet - My brother always seems to end up being the 'friend' - but then he always seems to fancy a particular type (ie bimbo-with-dubious-boyfriend) The whole world is made up of folks fancying other folks, and not always mutually. You can only give it your best shot.

ZEEK

Monday, March 10, 2008 3:53 PM

JQ!!!!!!!! Where you been man? You need to post more. We haven't had any disturbing pictures of undergarment protection in ages! And yes that is a product that should never exist.

CHOLLETT, I think JQ pretty much nailed that on the head all over the place. Make your intentions known as soon as you find yourself interested in the girl. There's nothing wrong with getting to know her, but if you aren't even hinting that you're interested then she's not the one to blame when she thinks of you just as a friend. There's also nothing wrong with getting to know a person while dating. Just because you go on a few dates you're not signing a contract. It's OK to find out you're not a match after a little while.

Let's be logical here. Dating gets a big 'F' for succes. The only way you get a passing grade is if you fall in love with the first person you date and live happily ever after. Even dating 2 people you're down to a 50% success rate. In reality it's probably going to be something in the single digets of success. There's nothing wrong with it. So, don't worry about finding the perfect person before you even ask them out.

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