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THOLO

Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:35 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Originally posted by Tholo:
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Yea, but he didnt change his religon to suite the (P.C.)crowd. That right there ought to tell you what kind of man Obama is. a man with no integrity. he changed his name because he knew he would have no chance in hell of getting elected with a muslim faith and a middle name like hussian, not in this climate. if it's not that big a deal for americans then why change it. heheeh.

Yeeesh, talk about name-calling. You're actually bagging on Obama because of his middle name, which HE DIDN'T CHOOSE FOR HIMSELF! And you claim that he "converted" just before his run for office. So you're saying that George Bush isn't fit to be President, correct? After all, he only became a bible-thumper when he decided to stop doing coke, whoring around and driving drunk and make a run for office.

And besides, what if Obama really WERE a Muslim? Would that be inherently evil? Supposed "christians" have spilled far more blood in the name of their religion than have Muslims, or any other faith for that matter. When did being an alleged christian automatically get you a pass on just being a decent human being?

Stupid people shouldn't breed.

Then why did he change?

I didnt call him any names? what are you talking about? I never said muslems were evil, your ducking the subject, he must feel its evil to change his what he belives in?

yea like clinton didnt whore around, why not mention him in all the bad mouthing? where is the name calling for clinton? come man use a little logic here. "those without sin my cast the first stone."

"some" of those Bush alligations are rumors anyway, set up by the media who are Dems anyway.
why do you think they are not bring up Obama's middle name and muslim upbringing. that would mean bad press for him, and we cant have that, i dont trust katie curic.

Clinton absolutely whored around. Dude got more ass than a toilet seat. Personally, I don't have a big problem with that as such, only with his choice of "babes". Let's face it, Clinton is no Jack Kennedy. Kennedy at least had the decency to bang Marilyn Monroe; Clinton settled for - gag - Paula Jones, Gennifer Flowers, and a fat intern.

The media are all "Dems", huh? That may come as a bit of a shock to Roger Ailes, Bill Orally, Rush Limbaugh, et al.

You say you're not name-calling, yet you continually call Obama a Muslim as if that's a bad name. And you continually bring up his middle name for the same reason. If that's not name-calling, what is it, exactly? What are you, seven years old? I'd dearly love to fight a battle of wits with you, but unfortunately you've come completely unarmed.

ohhhhh. i am not calling him a name sir. i am stating a FACT.
Was he not a Muslim!!! Yes he was and changed it to get votes. Why is that "namecalling"

IS his middle name not Hussian!!!!! Yes, he removed it to get votes,
Why is that "namecalling"

you sir are unarmed.

Keep Flying!!

THOLO

Thursday, February 14, 2008 6:37 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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Husayn, Hussein, Hussain, Husain, Hosein (Arabic:حسین), is an Arabic name which is the diminutive of Hasan, meaning "good" or "handsome". It is commonly given as a male given name among Muslims, after Husayn ibn Ali. In some Persian sources the form Háosayn is used [1]. In Turkish it is Hüseyin.

Well, that absolutely, beyond a doubt PROVES that he's the evil bastard son of Osama bin Laden and Saddam Hussein (or, as the Rethuglicans think of them, the one single person who represents every single Muslim: O'Saddama).

Or, it just COULD be that the middle name of Hussein was chosen because it's an Arabic word for "handsome" or "good".

Good Gosh, I didnt say he was involved with those terrorist. I just stated that he REMOVED them from the public eye, to get votes. Nor did I say the name hussian was a bad word.

Keep Flying!!

CANTTAKESKY

Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:08 PM

Lots of people remove things from the public eye when they are running for office. The American public WANTS some level of dishonesty from their candidates. They don't want confessions up there on the podium.

Barack Obama isn't any more dishonest than any other candidate. Anyone could easily find "dirt" that any other candidate has chosen to hide when they decided to run. And usually, that dirt is more damaging than having an arabic middle name.

I won't vote for any of them. But if I had to, I would vote for Obama even if his name were Iraq Hussein Osama. And I would do it happily over either Shrillary Billary or McInsane McCane.

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KWICKO

Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:26 PM

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ohhhhh. i am not calling him a name sir. i am stating a FACT.
Was he not a Muslim!!! Yes he was and changed it to get votes. Why is that "namecalling"

IS his middle name not Hussian!!!!! Yes, he removed it to get votes,
Why is that "namecalling"

you sir are unarmed.

1) I've never seen one scintilla of evidence that Barack Obama was *ever* a practicing Muslim. You are stating that it is a "FACT", with no evidence at all to back that up. I'm asking you to supply evidence - where did you get that he is, was, or ever has been a Muslim?

2) No, his middle name is NOT "Hussian". Plain and simple fact, it's not. It's "Hussein".

I think my biggest problem with the fucknuts on the right is the *way* they say it, which is simply a way of namecalling. They imply, by word and tone, that they quite simply don't approve of any person of any color other than lily white, and ESPECIALLY not of any person named (and they always say it with particular venom in the inflection, like a fire-n-brimstone baptist youth molester - er, I mean youth minister) "Bah-Rock-Ah Hew-SAYN Ohh-Bamm-Er" having the gall to run for President of these United States.

And the way these people say the word "Musllim" is like they have a mouthful of shit when they say it. I'm not crazy about Muslims, but I'm not crazy about Christians or any other religious group, either. To me, they are ALL equally deluded, equally indoctrinated into their respective cults, and equally feeble-minded. But to imply, by word and tone, that a Muslim isn't fit to lead our country is to go absolutely counter to our very Constitution and its guarantee of freedom of religion. How very fucking American of you...

Those on the right, and you, seem to be inferring things from Obama's name that simply aren't backed up by any evidence I've been able to find, or you've been able to provide. It's like me saying that Bush is categorically proven to be a complete and utter pussy simply because his last name is Bush. I mean, granted, he IS a giant pussy, but that comes more from his background as a coward and a deserter, not necessarily from his family name. I guess we should have known from his middle name that George WALKER Bush would run away from any hint of battle - at least any kind of battle that could result in HIM being sent to war.

And Karl Rove? Obviously a devout communist. Look at the way he spells his first name - Karl, just like Marx.

You're right - playing games with peoples' names and inferring things about their character from their name IS a lot of fun. Don't even get me started on Huckabee.

The so-called christian right is neither.

JONGSSTRAW

Thursday, February 14, 2008 7:43 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
I think my biggest problem with the fucknuts on the right ....

To me, they are ALL equally deluded, equally indoctrinated into their respective cults, and equally feeble-minded.

I mean, granted, he IS a giant pussy, but that comes more from his background as a coward and a deserter, not necessarily from his family name.
The so-called christian right is neither.

All you're doing is name calling & flaming at the same time. In a few short sentences you've managed to hurl insults at about 95% of all Americans. Congrats! You're today's winner...so far.

CANTTAKESKY

Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:18 PM

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Was he not a Muslim!!! Yes he was and changed it to get votes.

And you have proof of this?

Both he and his campaign have repeated stated that he is not, NOR EVER WAS, a Muslim. Where are you getting this idea that he once was a muslim? Do you, or anyone else, have proof? Can you produce photos of him or eyewitness reports of his attending a mosque, reading the Koran, making a pilgrimage to Mecca, observing the Ramadan, or observing his daily prayers before he ran for office?

It is customary for people who accuse other people of lying to produce proof. Otherwise, groundless direct accusations are themselves lies.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm

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THOLO

Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:27 PM

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Originally posted by canttakesky:
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Was he not a Muslim!!! Yes he was and changed it to get votes.
And you have proof of this?

Both he and his campaign have repeated stated that he is not, NOR EVER WAS, a Muslim. Where are you getting this idea that he once was a muslim? Do you, or anyone else, have proof? Can you produce photos of him or eyewitness reports of his attending a mosque, reading the Koran, making a pilgrimage to Mecca, observing the Ramadan, or observing his daily prayers before he ran for office?

It is customary for people who accuse other people of lying to produce proof. Otherwise, groundless direct accusations are themselves lies.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/muslim.asp

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/bl_barack_obama_muslim.htm

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When buying and selling are controlled by legislation, the first things to be bought and sold are legislators.
--P. J. O'Rourke

hhaha look at the poll results. about half way down the article.

Keep Flying!!

THOLO

Thursday, February 14, 2008 8:33 PM

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Originally posted by Kwicko:
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ohhhhh. i am not calling him a name sir. i am stating a FACT.
Was he not a Muslim!!! Yes he was and changed it to get votes. Why is that "namecalling"

IS his middle name not Hussian!!!!! Yes, he removed it to get votes,
Why is that "namecalling"

you sir are unarmed.

1) I've never seen one scintilla of evidence that Barack Obama was *ever* a practicing Muslim. You are stating that it is a "FACT", with no evidence at all to back that up. I'm asking you to supply evidence - where did you get that he is, was, or ever has been a Muslim?

2) No, his middle name is NOT "Hussian". Plain and simple fact, it's not. It's "Hussein".

I think my biggest problem with the fucknuts on the right is the *way* they say it, which is simply a way of namecalling. They imply, by word and tone, that they quite simply don't approve of any person of any color other than lily white, and ESPECIALLY not of any person named (and they always say it with particular venom in the inflection, like a fire-n-brimstone baptist youth molester - er, I mean youth minister) "Bah-Rock-Ah Hew-SAYN Ohh-Bamm-Er" having the gall to run for President of these United States.

And the way these people say the word "Musllim" is like they have a mouthful of shit when they say it. I'm not crazy about Muslims, but I'm not crazy about Christians or any other religious group, either. To me, they are ALL equally deluded, equally indoctrinated into their respective cults, and equally feeble-minded. But to imply, by word and tone, that a Muslim isn't fit to lead our country is to go absolutely counter to our very Constitution and its guarantee of freedom of religion. How very fucking American of you...

Those on the right, and you, seem to be inferring things from Obama's name that simply aren't backed up by any evidence I've been able to find, or you've been able to provide. It's like me saying that Bush is categorically proven to be a complete and utter pussy simply because his last name is Bush. I mean, granted, he IS a giant pussy, but that comes more from his background as a coward and a deserter, not necessarily from his family name. I guess we should have known from his middle name that George WALKER Bush would run away from any hint of battle - at least any kind of battle that could result in HIM being sent to war.

And Karl Rove? Obviously a devout communist. Look at the way he spells his first name - Karl, just like Marx.

You're right - playing games with peoples' names and inferring things about their character from their name IS a lot of fun. Don't even get me started on Huckabee.

The so-called christian right is neither.

proof , heck just look toward the top of the board and look at the pic. ok so I cant "Hussein". I can admit it.
Thanks for all the good curse words and name calling mainly on Bush and myself. Imagine if I were to say the same thing as you did about Obama.

You sir, are not worth my time. Goodbye

Keep Flying!!

KIRKULES

Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:28 PM

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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
It really scares the shit out of me that the only thing keeping a Muslim out of office of the President of the United states is the possible racism showing itself at the polls in November and the only possible outcome of a win over Obama would be McCain and Big Brother right behind him. And at least 8 more years of this pointless war....

R.I.P. Freedom, either way....

I take no solace in the fact that Obama speaks well and looks good in a suit.

You can't simply dismiss Obama so casually. Right now, he is becoming the Messiah for many in America. He is not giving many specifics now, and that is probably political genius. His first job is to get Hillary out of the way, then he'll take on McCain. But he is filling arenas with 20,000 young white middle-class voters, he's raising a million a day or more. He is delivering a message of "hope", and a lot of people either need that now, or are willing to elect a man on "faith". Faith that all will play out for the good. If he becomes President he will meet with his NSA, and Joint Chiefs, and Sec of Defense...he will see and hopefully understand the threats our country and friends face every day...he 'aint gonna be the same Obama as he is during the campaign...he'll become a President, and hopefully a good one. If my taxes go up $ 20 a week, and down the line Gay marriage becomes law of the land, I see that (for me) as a small price to pay if this man can restore America's greatness and respect in the world. I'm surprised at you 6ixstring..all you ever seem to do is bitch, and whine, and complain, and go woe is me. I would think that you would give the guy a chance. Those here that know my posts know that I'm a Republican most of my life, but I cannot vote for McCain. I am sick of the political fighting, and all the bitter hatred that Bush brought down on Americans through the media. We need some healing and bi-partisonship progress in this country. I will "suspend" my dis-belief and support Obama if he's the nominee. I don't wanna go thru another 16 years of personal attacks and hatred and petty political bullshit that has dominated the landscape through the Clinton / Bush years. If I can put faith in Obama, anybody can.

Is it just me, or does anybody else think that Body Snatchers have gotten to Jong.

CANTTAKESKY

Thursday, February 14, 2008 9:41 PM

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Originally posted by Tholo:
hhaha look at the poll results. about half way down the article.

And that is proof that he is a Muslim? Because 49% of an anonymous internet poll think he is Muslim?

Please answer the question. Where is your proof that he was a Muslim before he ran for office?

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