Hmm, maybe Vera would have worked without the suit?

POSTED BY: jake7
UPDATED: Tuesday, February 5, 2008 07:59
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VETERAN

Saturday, February 2, 2008 3:18 AM

Flan, you got a good point. People don't generally don't speak in technical terms, even when they know what they're talking about.

About the ship slowing down, I thought that the web was going to bring her to a dead stop. They might have been going so fast, Jayne could have plenty of time to aim and shoot. Or at least as much as they showed.

Regardless, the scene was great.

TRAVELER

Saturday, February 2, 2008 3:28 AM

And RiverFlan you have brought up another reason why I love this show. In Star Trek the Next Generation I could have screamed at the techno babble they threw at us in almost every episode.
Kaylee says, "She ain't moving." God to here straight talk was a breath of fresh air in the dark void of space. That technobabble tends to gum up the works.

Captain Dumby talk won me over big time.

Vera was special. I suspect it was the only weapon Jayne gave a name to. The way he held it in his hands when he asked Mal to trade for YoSaffbridge showed his love for it.

So there may have been specific reasons Vera could not fire in a vacuum. This made the shot more exciting. So if anyone asks what Jayne's job is on the ship, its weapons and that laugh of his.
Oh ya, watching over Kaylee.

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Traveler

JEWELSTAITEFAN

Tuesday, February 5, 2008 7:59 AM

I have not seen an irreconcilable problem yet with Vera.
Vera may be unable to function in a vacuum, and maybe designed that way.
Once Jayne had possesion, he would have thoroughly tested it's parameters, and he may have found that in space, it only went "click" and therefore assumed it needed oxygen. Maybe it needed pressure, or atmo, but his best determination was that it needed oxygen - he is no chemist.
He may hve just been trying to translate gun guy dummy talk to Captain Dummy talk to say "Vera won't work in space" without excluding the possibility of Vera working outside the hull.

Although the weapon might not work in a vacuum, the ammo should have. If the presence of the ammo in a vacuum rendered it inherently inoperative, then merely carrying it in or through a vaccuum would also do the same - very inconvenient, and surely to have been worked around by future weaponry designers - so the rounds passing through space or other vaccuum would not disable them.

Vera was an auto-fire weapon. The explosive gases traveling down the barrel are then channeled - before the round exits the barrel - back to recharge the chamber and eject the previous remnants. Don't recall if Vera was ejecting shells in that scene, but it could be a different system of ejection. Regardless, this hot explosive gas creates it's own auto-fire continuously, and also provides heat, to dispel the cold of space.
In atmo, the pressure from the feedback gases are working against atmo pressure, but in space the differential is greater, thus the feedback gases are more effective - as long as the timing does not get excessive due to the gas pressure being excessive, Vera should fire more rapidly than in atmo.

If I've explained that well enough, all should see that the "oxygen" or atmo pressure is only needed for that first round to trigger, and after that the heat and pressure problems are moot. The first shot is wasted, because going through the face shield ruins the trajectory.

Jayne seemed to hold VEra on continuous auto-fire, without stopping.
The face shield was destroyed, so the leakage to vaccuum would have been very quick.

Once Vera cooled down, in space, Jayne may have needed to provide specail care regarding the above discussed problems, but that is all after the net was destroyed.

In Out of Gas, Jayne shoots out Marco's leg without a glance towards aim. Handling Vera from the hip is not a problem regarding aim for Jayne.

As in all westerns, quick draw experts do not aim like you are thinking. In BDM, Mal did not aim like you think to shoot the Operative. Surely Jayne can do this with Vera.

Alos, I'm assuming the view shield is a much easier part of the suit to repair than the rest of it - glue in a new visor piece, or try to mend that fabric stuff vaccuum tight.

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