Mal and Wash in War Stories

"Just being kind?"

Maybe..but I think that is simplifing Wash too much. Men, even married men, can and do get feelings for other women. It happens, in real life and in television.

Now, if we want to think Wash is a cardboard cut out character, then sure, I agree that he was "just being nice." But I like the show and character way too much to hang that on either.

Then theres that moment in The Message that makes me think otherwise..especially after he and Zoe go at it.

Ah well..opinions vary, do they not?

To be honest, I keep my fingers crossed that someday Joss will get a chance to prove me wrong...cause that means Firefly will be back on the air!



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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
I dunno, I think they did a right good job of character development on Wash in War Stories.

You definately get to see that Wash and Zoe have a real relationship with ups and downs, as anyone else does, and that Wash is completely capable of seriously telling Zoe off without getting the crap beaten out of him (so obviously she must respect him and his opinion more than is usually assumed.).

You also get to see Wash find a part of himself he never suspected, not during the torture, but rather, when Zoe tells him that Niska is gonna make it last days, Wash finds his 'inner beast' in a hurry... "Niska's not gonna get days!"
(Alan's facial expressions bring Wash to 'life' sooo well, don't they ?)
That whole scene in the shuttle was a tight focus on who Wash is, and his realization of why Zoe respects Mal so much, and how far Mal will go for his crew, and in that moment of realization, he steps 'above himself' - and you realize that had his personality developed differently... Wash could be a very dangerous dude.

And unlike Simon (who's not exactly thrilled with the idea), or Kaylee (who's too kind to), Wash *will* shoot people and not feel guilty about it..and I've noticed in several other eps that Wash has an abundance of courage, he just doesn't have the skillset or mindset of soldier.

There's a world of difference between a pacifist and a cremepuff, and Wash is certainly no cremepuff, that's for sure.

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Have to agree w/ Fremdfirma. I think that we got to see a whole new side of Wash in "War Stories". I feel that Wash could use some more on screen time, and a little more development, but in this episode, we got to see several facets of his character.

He stood up to Zoe. I never saw that coming. He is normally so docile w/ her, seeming to be content w/ the role of husband and following her lead. In War Stories we get to see his jealous side, further convincing me of his deep love for Zoe. For him to not only argue w/ her, but to continue to push when both Zoe & Mal make it apparent they are getting aggrivated w/ him shows how far he is willing to go when he thinks he is right, even when he is being a jealous fool.

We also got to see the side of him where he is willing to fight and die for his friends. When he tells Zoe "He doesn't get days!" and they go in and start packing the guns, we get to see a deadly serious side to him, a strength we had not seen up to that point.

I think given time we would have seen more fleshing out of the Wash character.

As for the Wash/Kaylee thing, I don't think there is anything there. They are friends sure, comrades who find themselves in dangerous spots at times, but nothing more.

I think Kaylee was feeling a need for affirmation, and Wash being her friend said what he did to encourage her and bolster her self esteem. I do not for one minute think he would jeopardize his relationship w/ Zoe for anything or anyone.



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Besides, Zoe would kill his ass.. with her pinky.

-frem
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I agree. Wash and Zoe love each other very much. That is one of the main reasons I love the show is the chemistry the two of them have together. It would kill me if they had ever broke them up.

Jaye

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When I saw Mal kick the guy into the engines on the first episode I ever saw, I knew everything regarding what I thought about this show or what could happen was out the window.

I have learned, over seven years of Buffy and five (is that right?) of Angel, that trying to guess what the hell Joss Whedon might do with a show is a first-class ticket to Frustrationville. It's fun to speculate, sure, but I try not to even pretend that I have any idea what could or could not happen, cause as soon as I do that, he's likely to pull the rug right out from under me. Though frankly, it's kinda nice to not be able to predict what's going to happen next, no matter how frustrating it may be.

Ankhagogo



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