Battlestar Galactica - RAZOR ( non spoilerish, please )
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UPDATED: Sunday, December 9, 2007 16:05
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Quote:Hey Sin- my wife has little patience for the series, yet she liked the mini-series as a stand-alone story. Could she see this or are there too many references to stuff that happened in the show?
Originally posted by singate:
I'll give it a solid 4 out of 5. The story was interesting, the throwback to the original series was well done without getting in the way, and the acting was up to the high standard set in the early days of the series.
Also, is there any really gross bloody stuff?
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I'd have to give this 4.5 out of 5. There were a couple of bits I felt didn't work but on the whole I really enjoyed this and will eagerly await the DVD release.
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Going back to the orginal series raiders was kind of a step backward. I thought the whole point of 're-imagining' the series was to move it forward from Larson's old show.
The old Cylons aren't new to the show. They established that they had been around at the start of the mini-series by showing a few diagrams of what they knew Cylon tech to be like. It only makes sense that these Cylons would be them. Personally I thought it was a nice touch to see the old raiders.
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Hey Sin- my wife has little patience for the series, yet she liked the mini-series as a stand-alone story. Could she see this or are there too many references to stuff that happened in the show?
Also, is there any really gross bloody stuff?
If you haven't seen the Pegasus and follow on episodes from S2 then I don't think this will make a lot of sense. Stuff is referenced in S2 that you get to see in Razor. Also there are references to the end of S3 as well.
I didn't find it particularly bloody, there's no 'inside a raider' type scene with tendrils and innards and stuff.
And only for those that saw the show:
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When the hybrid ship blew up we see a shot of the explosion reflected in Starbucks canopy and then the camera pans across the starfield.
Anyone notice the Big Dipper/Plough constellation?? I thought there were also other stars that seemed to be shining brightly as well but I'm not up on my stars, it's just that the Big Dipper is so easy to spot.
Anyone? or am I being too much of a geek.
If true, then it's definitely a hint that they are closer to Earth.
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Overall, I'd give it two and a half stars.
I liked the appearance of the classic Cylons, and the classic style Cylon fighters.
I also liked the flashback sequence of the initial attack, and how the Pegasus survived it. We knew Cain did a blind jump to save the ship, but it was cool to see it.
I didn't like the new character at all. I didn't believe her motivations, and her character was kinda derivative of other characters (Kat, Cain, Gina6 and even Starbuck). I didn't feel like I was meeting someone new. Just another cliche' Ron Moore angry chick. He's been doing those since Ensign Ro was introduced on TNG. Ron, come up with a new female archetype!!! This one is getting tired!
Oh, and how risky to introduce such a flawed character, and then safely suicide her, because she's beyond redemption! WOW Ron, didn't see that coming! BTW: That was sarcasm! 
It still didn't answer the biggest question of all! The one fans have waited months for. The issue we all need some closure on!
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I'd give it at least a 3-1/2, maybe 4.
I didn't click the link someone posted of a review, but from what was quoted all I can say is if the guy couldn't understand what was going on he is a moron. They gave you captions every time they flashed back or forward, so you knew where and when the action was taking place.
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I'd give it a solid 4.5 out of 5. It really weren't bad at all. It has been a long great while since I heard a "By your command!" -- that brought back some fond memories. And let's face it, Stephanie Chaves-Jacobsen (Kendra Shaw) is really hot! :)
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Oh, that part where they located Earth, and Starbuck 'forgot' all about it was a bunch of crap- I don't care if she IS a Cylon, the way they handled it was stupid!
GOT YA!!! Ha ha hah- Just kidding!! Stopped yer heart though, eh??
Very bad man Chrisisall
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Other than that, the 2-hour Razer was ok, mostly a flashback to just after the Cylon invasion.
The brainwashing was typical, women soldiers and presidents in charge of destruction of the human race. Martial Law is good for you. Obvious metaphor for the nuking of US cities in 2008, to make Baltar Bush Supreme Dictator For Life. Unless the writers strike postpones the coup to 2009.
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Quote:I do find the obvious militarism a bit much at times, but like, that's the show, so, take it or leave it.
Originally posted by piratenews:
The brainwashing was typical, women soldiers and presidents in charge of destruction of the human race. Martial Law is good for you.
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I thought the show was great and Stephanie Jacobsen is hot! This show was definitely a 5
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I like BSG a lot normally.
That said, Razor was only ho-hum. While it was nice to see things about the Beast they had only mentioned previously, it didn't really bring anything new to the table.
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Another review here
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http://www.film.com/tv/story/spaceoffourwritersoveranalyzebattlestarga
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I watched Battlestar Galactica: Razor twice this weekend just so I could have the following over-analytical email exchange with fellow Film.com writer and "Geek Goddess" MaryAnn Johanson.
DM writes: Some said BSG jumped the shark when Pegasus was introduced. Others said it was when they discovered the latest temple. The rest are predicting that last season's ending, with the four Cylons revealed, was the shark-jumping moment. Either way, I think, with *Razor,*BSG somehow jumped backwards over the shark, which may be the first time in history that's happened. Dark, disturbing and just cheesy enough around the edges to be real sci-fi.
MAJ writes: I can't speak to any shark jumping in S2, and I don't think there was a moment in S3 when I thought it jumped. But if a show needed to jump back over the shark, *Razor* is the kind of thing to do it. Dark and disturbing? Yes, hell. The thing that I've come to love about BSG is that it's not afraid to ask hard questions.. and then not answer them. There's not a lot of sci-fi -- and not a lot of pop culture of any genre -- that's willing to be so morally ambiguous. And I think we need that, especially with what's going on in the larger world. I think it's good to be reminded that what's right and what's wrong is not always as cut-and-dried as we'd like to think it is.
Razor was a good show but it is flawed and you can't really compare it to other great scifi movies. The complexity of the new BSG scifi universe will always alienate new scifi viewers. It is not like a Trek movie where you have a general knowledge of Spock or Picard and you can just tune in and watch the latest Trek film. Razor is better than a lot of other Trek movies and scifi movies, but it lacks direction and was kind of pointless you can not compare it to great scifi movies. A lot of the movie dealth with a character we have never seen or heard of before, and never will see again.
I wasn't sure about the old dude in the tub predicting the end of humanity and Starbuck bringing WW3 and the Apocalypse, I suppose he's the hybrid but I missed some episodes when the series was on air.
Adding the classic 80s Cylons was a nice touch but there are things which were a bit unnecessary for example already knew Cain was a psychopath. BSG can be dark, very dark, the overt militarism through the series, the gloom and depression within the characters and Cain ordering degradation on prisoners like Abu Ghraib in Iraq.
The leader of the Pegasus ship was ruthless, a guy comes to her as the voices of reason and humanity only to literally get blown apart by her behaving as if she's some kind of Roman Empress that decimates her disobedient troops (like a lame horse if they don't obey you then shoot them decimazione era uno strumento estremo di disciplina militare). Right now people don't enjoy being spoon militarism, spoon fed politics, but I think in time people will look back on BSG and it will taste differently. During the 60s people didn't want to be spoon fed movies on the Vietnam War, they were already getting enough, news propaganda and they were getting guts n gore on their televisions. In a few years people might be able to look back on it with a different appreciation and mood.
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