Hey all you bloody sods from England.
POSTED BY: Fremdfirma
UPDATED: Tuesday, December 4, 2007 13:20
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Look man, I know I give you hell all the time, but straight up, I'm a bit concerned at the moment, doubly so since I do not know if you have kids or not.
Merck is aiming it's HPV Vaccine (Gardasil) at the UK now, and intensely lobbying once again to make it legally mandatory, now in YOUR country.
Capsule background in case you missed it.
Poor and inadequate testing, a rather disreputable set of sidesteps and fast-tracks to get it approved for folks it was never tested on, in spite of the Vacc itself being more dangerous than what it prevents, and in spite of questions about it's effectiveness.
And folks placed their trust in Merck, and shouted down the critics...
And then the damage began to pile up, severe reactions, deaths.. the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) database looks like a catalogue of horrors, and bear in mind that physicians, who recieve much largess in the form of free trips, equipment, etc.. from the drug manufacturers, are actively discouraged from reporting - you can imagine that it's almost assured that the issues are far worse than the VAERS reports would indicate.
This following an intense political lobbying effort to made it legally mandatory, which stalled out in the face of popular opposition and then completely tanked when the casualties started piling up.
And now even the mere mention of it is "dissappeared" from the mainstream media like it never even existed, once it blew up in Mercks face.
And so they mean to recoup their losses and squeeze their profit out of this dangerous, untested vaccine of dubious effectiveness...
And they're looking at YOUR kids to foot the bill for it, in cash and risk.
And that bothers me dude, bothers me a lot.
Hell even if I hated you, your kids ain't never done me no harm, you know ?
Might wanna do some research and check up on this yourself, and sure you might come to a different conclusion, but my conscience (yes, I have one) required that I say *something* here.
Goes for other of our UK posters too, but the only one off the top of my head when I think of annoying limeys is you.
-Frem
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Quote:Thanks, I didn't know and I'll look into it. But, I'd be very surprised if they got it in mandatory, for a start it would be the first vaccine that's mandatory in this country (as far as I'm aware) and second, it'll be down to the NHS to supply it, and they don't tend to let any old shit past.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Merck is aiming it's HPV Vaccine (Gardasil) at the UK now, and intensely lobbying once again to make it legally mandatory, now in YOUR country.
Quote:Sure, though your animosity towards me baffles me a bit. Unless you hold major grudges for past comments, but to be frank you've given me as good as I've given you.
Hell even if I hated you, your kids ain't never done me no harm, you know ?
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Frem, you're so....sweet...sort of...
I eat vaccines for breakfast Chrisisall
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It's not you, Cit, so much as the whole tit-for-tat post and repost some folk do when trying to get reason out of someone clearly determined to be unreasonable who keeps changing the terms, definitions, and frame of the discussion in order to do anything BUT discuss it.
All that does is just static out the discussion and irritate the hell out of everyone who IS trying to discuss it, and I lit you up for it once and we had a nice little row over it, as I recall.
Doesn't mean I dislike YOU, per se, and you're by far not the only one I've kicked in the shins for it - take the snark as a compliment that I give a damn enough about your opinions to be irritated by em... if I thought it likely to truly and deeply offend you, I wouldn't do it, or wouldn't do it without outright intention TO offend.
-F
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"I eat vaccines for breakfast Chrisisall" I do too, though sometimes they're called yogurt and sometimes keffir. 
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Quote:Personally I think those sorts of people always need to be challenged, lest they fool people who don't know they're only here because they read "Browncoat" and thought it said "Brownshirt" and signed up.
Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
It's not you, Cit, so much as the whole tit-for-tat post and repost some folk do when trying to get reason out of someone clearly determined to be unreasonable who keeps changing the terms, definitions, and frame of the discussion in order to do anything BUT discuss it.
Quote:Fair enough.
Doesn't mean I dislike YOU, per se, and you're by far not the only one I've kicked in the shins for it - take the snark as a compliment that I give a damn enough about your opinions to be irritated by em... if I thought it likely to truly and deeply offend you, I wouldn't do it, or wouldn't do it without outright intention TO offend.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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You should modify the title to read 'Oh worthy comrades from England!' or something like that. Otherwise, Fletch2 might miss this thread.
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Better ?
And I was soooo tempted to use the W word too.
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As soon as I saw it I knew you heeded my advice. In your own particular idiom, of course.
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This is the vaccine that the current Texas Gov tried to make manditory for all young girls to take, right ? Man, that's Alliance stuff for certain. 
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