Not Guilty?
POSTED BY: Hero
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Senator Craig's arrest may be Constitutionally invalid. Article 1, section 6 reads in part:
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They shall in all cases, except treason, felony and breach of the peace, be privileged from arrest during their attendance at the session of their respective Houses, and in going to and returning from the same; and for any speech or debate in either House, they shall not be questioned in any other place.
I'm not sure of the case law on the subject, but I know of one case from PA that involved the arrest of a Delegate to PA's Constitutional Convention in the early 1970s for murder. He could not be arrested until after the convention ended. Edited to add: it was vehicular manslaughter related to a DUI...not murder.
In this case the Senator was travelling to or from the Senate to his home state and was illegally arrested, detained, and questioned. At best the case is not valid and should be dismissed. At worst the plea should be withdrawn (in the interests of justice) and the taped statement and any other statements should be suppressed.
I note for the record that a finding of 'Not Guilty' is not the same as 'innocent'.
H
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at best he's still out on his ass. The party he helped to shape into a haven for hating bigots has turned on him now that his hypocracy has been exposed. Not that they care much about the hypocracy, or even his homosexuality for that matter. Craig is out only because he was caught.
Just ask Mccain and Romney how they feel about him, now that the world has gotten a look at him peering under a stall wall. He's toast.
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Time for him to ask the Prez for the Scooter option...
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I don't care if he's charged for this or not. I don't think police should be wasting time patrolling bathrooms, anyway. And I don't care who he wants to screw.
What is of interest to me is that this incident revealed Craig's level of hipocracy. And his attempt to use his position to get out of trouble.
That's enough to run him out of town. Though I do kinda wish he wouldn't resign, just to make things all that much more embarrasing for the GOP.
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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My understanding is that the officer was there because there had been complaints of sexual activity going on in that particular bathroom. I don't think it was a patrol as much as a stakeout, and sex in a public place is a crime regardless of who and where, or what political parties are involved.
Also, I'm hard pressed to think of a worse police assignment than to spend hours in an airport men's room.
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Originally posted by NewOldBrownCoat:
Time for him to ask the Prez for the Scooter option...
I note for the record that the President's pardon powers cannot be used to overturn State crimes. He'll need to petition Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty (R)...but some states vary on what their governor's pardon powers.
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Originally posted by schooner:
sex in a public place is a crime regardless of who and where, or what political parties are involved.
He was not charged with sex in public. Its not against the law to ask someone for sex, to bump someone's foot, to ask for a date, etc. He is alleged to have been looking in the stalls to see if it was occupied, bumping his foot and reaching under the stall. None of that is illegal.
I'm as homophobic as the next guy, but this aint illegal.
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Originally posted by Hero:Quote:
Originally posted by schooner:
sex in a public place is a crime regardless of who and where, or what political parties are involved.
He was not charged with sex in public. Its not against the law to ask someone for sex, to bump someone's foot, to ask for a date, etc. He is alleged to have been looking in the stalls to see if it was occupied, bumping his foot and reaching under the stall. None of that is illegal.
I'm as homophobic as the next guy, but this aint illegal.
H
I was not addressing the charges or validity of the charges against Senator Craig. I was addressing the reason for a plainclothes officer to be present in an airport restroom. There were apparantly prior complaints of "lewd behavior" occuring there, and lewd behavior in public is a crime regardless of the place or the persons involved.
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