Zoe & Regular Army
POSTED BY: Charlotte
UPDATED: Saturday, September 15, 2007 09:31
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All right, I just spoke to our resident AP Government/History teacher and he said that the term "Civil War" can be loosely applied to any political system that is fractured from within its own physical boundaries and or perceived jurisdiction of such boundaries. (And that was his Capt. Dummy explanation!)
So...militias, small planetary armies (Zoe being a member)...would organize over time and cause concern for the Alliance wanting to establish control of resources and political power, in the outer planets. Hence, a war, to unify, would eventually occur.
Ironically, he just finished "The Killer Angels", the book that the verse's Unification War is based on and he highly recommends it to those that are interested.
ummm...maybe I can convert him... and can get him to buy the CE and the Box Set... and maybe he can make a contribution to Equality Now...ummm
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thanks for the info - and yes - go CONVERT - ha ha ha
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Originally posted by Platonist:
All right, I just spoke to our resident AP Government/History teacher and he said that the term "Civil War" can be loosely applied to any political system that is fractured from within its own physical boundaries and or perceived jurisdiction of such boundaries. ....
You see that's the part that don't make no sense. If you have a unified core planets and unattached outer planets (independents) then it's more of a war of colonization or conquest (imperlialism) than a civil war, as the independents aren't seccedeing as much as defying.
BTW make the full press for the conversion.
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its a question like this that we should look to inspirational men
eg. Martine Luther King who said "All wars are civil wars since all men are brothers"
so there we go
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If Zoe was a member of the regular service, why didn't she attain a rank higher than junior NCO in an ad hoc army that may have been short of professionals? Perhaps, as a former member of the Alliance forces and possibly one with blood relatives still serving in those forces, she was obstructed from advancement to higher rank. I would have liked to see the meeting of Zoe and her brother whose distinguished service in the victorious Alliance has given him a postion of power and influence.
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Originally posted by Veteran:
You see that's the part that don't make no sense. If you have a unified core planets and unattached outer planets (independents) then it's more of a war of colonization or conquest (imperlialism) than a civil war, as the independents aren't seccedeing as much as defying.
BTW make the full press for the conversion.
Could just be a matter of perspective. After all, those settlers had to come from somewhere, and the technology and funding to terraform those worlds. Since only Sihnon and Londinium can claim to be settled from Earth-that-was, maybe the idea is that all ther planets are really de facto Alliance colonies, and thus subject to Alliance rules. The fact that the people living on thse worlds see it differently is irrevevant to the legality.
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Good point. Maybe not irrelevant but at least "subject to discussion."
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Originally posted by Veteran:
You see that's the part that don't make no sense. If you have a unified core planets and unattached outer planets (independents) then it's more of a war of colonization or conquest (imperlialism) than a civil war, as the independents aren't seccedeing as much as defying.
BTW make the full press for the conversion.
Could just be a matter of perspective. After all, those settlers had to come from somewhere, and the technology and funding to terraform those worlds. Since only Sihnon and Londinium can claim to be settled from Earth-that-was, maybe the idea is that all ther planets are really de facto Alliance colonies, and thus subject to Alliance rules. The fact that the people living on thse worlds see it differently is irrevevant to the legality.
That's why I think it's one bit of evidence that Joss took bits and pieces from history and mashed them all up together.
I like to think of Firefly as the Revolution, but with Washington et al losing and then a bit of post American Civil War Reconstruction. And that's where the story starts.
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Originally posted by Platonist:
Ironically, he just finished "The Killer Angels", the book that the verse's Unification War is based on and he highly recommends it to those that are interested.
Killer Angels is excellent, and a good source of inspiration for fic-writing :)
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