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Rayne Lovers and Haters

POSTED BY: crystalkei
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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 12:21 PM

Okay, I write it, I do. I heart Rayne, but unlike many folks that I have had a chance to talk to on Rayne sites. I don't think there is any basis in canon for it. We love it, but I don't think Joss was going there. At least not anytime soon. Taking 'copper for a kiss' and his reaction to her in the BDM during the lilac job as pre-rayne is stretching...WAY streching.

I look at it like this: Spike didn't show up in S2 of Buffy with the idea OMG! I want Buffy! Joss didn't say, let's get this badass and then he can dump his crazy GF, and by S6 he can be so obsessed with Buffy that he can try to rape her, then go get a soul just for her. Now, I love Spike/Buffy, I think they made a better pair than her and Angel, but if Jayne and River were gonna get together in the show, it would have HAD to be seasons later. WAY later.

So, let's hash it out...i know there are lovers and haters of the ship...I love it, but I can also see that it's all in my head. How 'bout you?

Jayne Cobb, the Dick Casablancas of Firefly

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:36 PM

I used to be a Jaylee fan. Now i actually <3 Rayne more. For some reason i see Jayne and River as a perfect match. Both are dangerous but with childlike additudes.


I still think River could kick Jaynes butt though!

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:39 PM

i do love to have them beat the crap out of eachother routinely in my fics. like buffy and spike 'bringin down the house' in season 6.

Jayne Cobb, the Dick Casablancas of Firefly

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 2:43 PM

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Originally posted by crystalkei:
i do love to have them beat the crap out of eachother routinely in my fics. like buffy and spike 'bringin down the house' in season 6.


Those are the best fics. I tell ya!

And I love it when it ends and he carries her to his bunk

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:11 PM

I don't particularly like it. I don't think Joss would have gone there - at least not in the first 5 years. . .

But - that said, if anything is written believably, I'll read it. But rarely is anything Rayne (or any non cannon pairing )related written believably enough to make me like it - or want to read anything else by that author if they're known to write only that pairing.

"A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned."

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:13 PM

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Originally posted by Leiasky:
I don't particularly like it. I don't think Joss would have gone there - at least not in the first 5 years. . .




i am with you on that...i am...hence my wondering what others think.

ps...i love your stuff L!

Jayne Cobb, the Dick Casablancas of Firefly

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:25 PM

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Originally posted by Leiasky:
But - that said, if anything is written believably, I'll read it. But rarely is anything Rayne (or any non cannon pairing )related written believably enough to make me like it - or want to read anything else by that author if they're known to write only that pairing.


I actually feel that way about Malara. Every fic i have read pairing Mal with Inara its always sappy and angsty. It doesn't catch my attention.

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:29 PM

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Originally posted by Tinadoll:
Every fic i have read pairing Mal with Inara its always sappy and angsty. It doesn't catch my attention.




I have to agree with you. There's nothing about that potential relationship that would be easy or quick about them getting together. The snark is too much fun. I'm not nearly as interested in them, though, and I tend to skip over most of the sap related to them in stories. Mal4Prez does them well, but she's one of the few.

But - this is a Rayne thread, I don't want to veer too much off topic! LOL!

"A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned."

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:36 PM

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Originally posted by Leiasky:
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Originally posted by Tinadoll:
Every fic i have read pairing Mal with Inara its always sappy and angsty. It doesn't catch my attention.




I have to agree with you. There's nothing about that potential relationship that would be easy or quick about them getting together. The snark is too much fun. I'm not nearly as interested in them, though, and I tend to skip over most of the sap related to them in stories. Mal4Prez does them well, but she's one of the few.

But - this is a Rayne thread, I don't want to veer too much off topic! LOL!



I have read Mal4Prez's fics. They are really good. But yes-The snark is way too much fun. On the other hand the potential phsicallity of Rayne makes it all the more interesting

(lol see how i got back on topic there)

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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 3:42 PM

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Originally posted by Tinadoll:
On the other hand the potential phsicallity of Rayne makes it all the more interesting

(lol see how i got back on topic there)




Yes, I can see it. But - not immediately and it would take a LOT of time and character growth on both sides. If Joss went that way, I think it would have taken years. Taking time is something most fic writers don't do. They just write their favorite pairing without any thought as to whether it would be believable or not. Nothing wrong with it. Some people will like it regardless and not care.

But it's important to me as a reader (and as a writer), though not everyone is so picky:)

Tamsinling wrote a long story that had the rayne pairing develop over time. The name of it escapes me at the moment. She does list pairings on her stories so I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to find.

"A government is a body of people usually notably ungoverned."

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