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Staying healthy- and misleading

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RUE
Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:13 PM

Not that it will bring down LDL cholesterol or raise HDL - but - I STILL remember a graph from Science (or was it Nature ?) that graphed total cholesterol v death rate from all causes. And wouldn't you know, the lower cholesterol was below 235 the higher death rates zoomed up. Cholesterol higher than 235 didn't see much of an increased death rate either. Also, recent studies indicate a 'Mediterranean' diet is associated with lower CVS and dementia risk, irrespective of cholesterol and other risk factors like weight and BP. I just bought 2 historic books from the 1950's written by the man who did the original work on 'Mediterranean' diets - literally JUST got them in the mail. So I'll be looking into them to see what a 'Mediterranean' diet consists of. BTW, one of the reasons (I've read) for the liberal use of olive oil is to make all those green veggies palatable. So THAT'S the secret to eating the stuff!

"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

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RUE
Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:15 PM

HA HA HA HA HA !!! I found that a glass (or so ) of wine in the AM is a good antidote for pain and stiffness. I'll be publishsing MY results as soon as I can get out of bed!

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
3 beers a night will help disolve bad cholesteral in your arteries...a twenty year experiment of mine. I'll publish the results soon *hic*

No tea-totaler Chrisisall



"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

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RUE
Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:18 PM

So what's the verdict here? I've always gone with the motto - if it hurts, stop doing it. Do I move though pain now ?

"Global warming - it's not just a fact, it's a choice."

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Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:20 PM

Move thru pain... but only if you premedicate. And stretch. And get sunshine. So lay on the beach with a glass of wine, and when you feel all nice and warm and relaxed, stretch REAL BIG. THEN get up!

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Always look upstream.

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Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:22 PM

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Originally posted by rue:
So what's the verdict here? I've always gone with the motto - if it hurts, stop doing it. Do I move though pain now ?


Definitely. Raise the pain threshold, and increase flexability.
Now.

Chrisisall

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Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:28 PM

Okay Rue- you have your marching orders. Seeya on the tennis court next week... OR ELSE!

ETA: Then we'll undo all the good we've done by having a steak and salad dinner, with applesauce and vanilla ice cream for dessert, and several bottles of shiraz. Jaime, Amy, Frank and Kathy are gonna be there too... Chris, bring the folks! It's gonna be fun!

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RUE
Sunday, June 17, 2007 6:36 PM

Pre-medicate - eh ? I have to let you know - I'm a happy drunk.

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Monday, June 18, 2007 12:33 AM

What was it Dennis Leary said ?
Eat right, don't smoke, get run down by a bus driven by some guy who smokes 3 packs a day ?

Every moment of life is precious, and I plan to enjoy what I have without making it so miserable it's unworthy of continuance - by my own upbringing and environment I will not likely see fifty, thanks to the deadly pollution of the neighborhood of my youth, and the damage to my health from the accident, but I fill my time with richness and pleasure and when I go I hope to do so without regret.

That sure beats a long, grey purgatory of never doing anything risky, dangerous or fun.

All that being said, C. Everett Koop was a madman, clinically insane while in office, something generally admitted after the fact, and with a history of bending studies to his will to 'prove' his idiotic little pet theories, and yet we still hold his lunacy up as what constitutes 'healthy' in the public consciousness.

So, as long as we're basing a lot of our public idea of health on the pet theories of a known lunatic, I am dubious of anything based on them - although finally progress is being made on blowing those idiotic ideas to powder, as a whole, his work is still taken on faith by a lot of people.

Just some thoughts,

-Frem

It cannot be said enough, those who do not learn from history, are doomed to endlessly repeat it

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Monday, June 18, 2007 1:08 AM

"I think cholesterol is a candidate for your list. I suspect that high cholesterol in the absense of omega-3 is a problem, but not otherwise. I'm working on that experiment on myself."

Hope your dumb ass experiment is a failure

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RUE
Monday, June 18, 2007 1:18 AM

Ah, the ritual bashing continues ...

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