Ann Coulter, right wing goddess
POSTED BY: NewOldBrownCoat
UPDATED: Thursday, October 5, 2023 23:43
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
So for all those principled conservatives out there, she's representing you and representing you often.
Too bad for the conservatives. If they want someone to express homophobic, anti-abortion, fundamentalist Christian views in the worst possible way, they can have her. Just because I don't care much for what she says doesn't mean I have to emulate her tactics.
If I were actually agreeing with what she says, I'd understand the reaction I'm getting, but getting insulted for basically noting that two wrongs don't make a right leads me to think that some folk are back in that old "anything other than total agreement is opposition" rut.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Oh Slick,
You are such a dissembler.
By you own post, here's how Richards and Coulter stack up.
Richards entertainer v Coulter 'entertainer' (more on that later)
Richards with 'intent to hurt' v Coulter with intent to hurt
Richards snapped v Coulter aforethought and malice
The only apparent difference (by your own post) is that Coulter spoke on purpose and Richards snapped. So in your mind Coulter should be excused because she said it on purpose.
Stellar logic, that.
You're surprised at the low tone of this thread? But not at Ann Coulter's speech? Now see, that's where your bias really shows.
As to her being an entertainer, this is how she lists herself on her website: "Coulter is the legal correspondent for Human Events".
The various speakers agencies through which she can be booked list her as "Bestselling Author and Political Commentator" (Premier Speakers Bureau); author and legal correspondent (The Clare Both Luce Policy Institute Conservative Woman Speakers Program), and many listings with the Young America's Foundation but entertainer is not one of them.
Coulter is an entertainer? Hardly ...
When I get up in front of an audience and call someone a nigger, or faggot, or kike I'll be JUST like Coulter. I'll be demeaning not only a person but a whole group of people based on bias. When I call you "stupid, pointless and wrong" it's a personal observation.
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As to why you're getting attacked it's b/c you excuse hate speech when it comes from the right.
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Originally posted by Geezer:
If I were actually agreeing with what she says, I'd understand the reaction I'm getting, but getting insulted for basically noting that two wrongs don't make a right leads me to think that some folk are back in that old "anything other than total agreement is opposition" rut.
What it sounded to me like you were saying was, "Both sides do it." Which I think I have shown is not the case.
"Two wrongs don't make a right." But what if the two wrongs are apples and oranges when it comes to comparison? If you are trying to minimize the negativity of one wrong by comparing it to a categorically different wrong then I'd say you've got a dog in the hunt.
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Originally posted by rue:
Richards snapped v Coulter aforethought and malice. The only apparent difference (by your own post) is that Coulter spoke on purpose and Richards snapped. So in your mind Coulter should be excused because she said it on purpose.
Stellar logic, that.
Never said that Coulter should be excused. Only said that I was disappointed that FFF folk would sink to her level.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:Quote:
Originally posted by Geezer:
If I were actually agreeing with what she says, I'd understand the reaction I'm getting, but getting insulted for basically noting that two wrongs don't make a right leads me to think that some folk are back in that old "anything other than total agreement is opposition" rut.
What it sounded to me like you were saying was, "Both sides do it." Which I think I have shown is not the case.
Nope. I said that I'm disappointed that the opponents of Ms. Coulter would use the same tactics she does.
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"Two wrongs don't make a right." But what if the two wrongs are apples and oranges when it comes to comparison? If you are trying to minimize the negativity of one wrong by comparing it to a categorically different wrong then I'd say you've got a dog in the hunt.
"Negativity" is the key word here. If you oppose Ms. Coulter's negative approach, try something other than emulating her by doing the same thing. If the only way we can disagree is by negative attacks, we're all lost, no matter our position.
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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Slick,
"Negativity" is your key distraction here. What Coulter said was more than 'negative'. As usual, you have no point to make.
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Originally posted by Geezer:
"Negativity" is the key word here. If you oppose Ms. Coulter's negative approach, try something other than emulating her by doing the same thing. If the only way we can disagree is by negative attacks, we're all lost, no matter our position.
Any emulation here in this thread is only a pale imitation with no official sanction.
I see no one in this thread who makes tons of money from conservative organizations. I see no one in this thread who sells tons of books. I see no one in this thread who is invited on numerous cable news shows as a conservative commentator. I see no one in this thread who calls on their followers to violently attack those who disagree with them.
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Originally posted by Geezer:
"Negativity" is the key word here. If you oppose Ms. Coulter's negative approach, try something other than emulating her by doing the same thing. If the only way we can disagree is by negative attacks, we're all lost, no matter our position.
I tried to mention this earlier but a couple of posters kept moving the goalposts on me. Personally attacking Ann Coulter for personally attacking Edwards is apparently okay as long as it is only on this forum. The wrongness is in direct correlation to the size of the audience or some such.
Posting to stir stuff up.
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Any emulation here in this thread is only a pale imitation with no official sanction.
I see no one in this thread who makes tons of money from conservative organizations. I see no one in this thread who sells tons of books. I see no one in this thread who is invited on numerous cable news shows as a conservative commentator. I see no one in this thread who calls on their followers to violently attack those who disagree with them.
So it's all right for folks here to manufacture or quote obviously bogus slander as long as they maintain their amateur status? Let me check the rule book. Nope, wrong is still wrong, pro or amateur.
Look. You got plenty of perfectly cogent arguments against Ms. Coulter's positions and methods. Is she prejudiced? Yes. Is she a rabble rouser? Yes. Does she incite folks to violence? Yes. Is she insulting? Yes. Does associating with her reflect badly on the conservative organizations which hire and support her? Yes. Do her actions bring the positions she supports into disrepute? Yes. I'm convinced.
So why the need for the kinky sex, blood bathing, transvestite, funny hands shtick? Someone put a good bit of effort into the sites that folks here linked to. What's the point? Just to look clever?
"Keep the Shiny side up"
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I think Geezer and BigDamnNobody have a fair point, since I'm not a big fan of the "We're nobodies, so we can say anything we like" argument either. There's no harm in making fun of her, but some of it tends to go too far.
The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter.
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