Home Defense Opinions
POSTED BY: AnthonyT
UPDATED: Friday, October 24, 2025 16:55
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Originally posted by citizen:
Hunting is usually done for fun with the side effect of killing
Which is why I didn't mention hunting
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Guns are a tool designed for killing
As are swords, bows and WW2 fighters, yet all of those are used (now) primarily for recreational purposes that do not result in death.
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their ownly practicable uses are towards that end or the training towards that end.
I just showed you that wasn't true, guns are very practical for having fun via target shooting. While target shooting improves marksmanship, the primary purpose for target shooting is to have fun.
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Quote:Yeah because comparing a plane too a gun is a valid example. Swords and Bows have been superceeded by guns, but all their uses save aesthetics lead directly to their primary function.
Originally posted by fredgiblet:
As are swords, bows and WW2 fighters, yet all of those are used (now) primarily for recreational purposes that do not result in death.
Quote:No You didn't and no it isn't
I just showed you that wasn't true, guns are very practical for having fun via target shooting. While target shooting improves marksmanship, the primary purpose for target shooting is to have fun.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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A bow is a killing machine, whose primary design revolves around the taking of life. A bow is as deadly or deadlier now as it was when it was first used to hunt a four legged animal. It is as deadly or deadlier now as it was when it was used in the field of battle to mow down infantry at a range of 75-150 yards.
A bow is still used to kill. It is used to take down game during a special hunting season devoted to such.
A bow is primarily used in target shooting and sports competitions.
A bow has a lot in common with a gun. But a gun is a better, more efficient killing machine than a bow. A gun is smaller, faster, and in some versions, longer ranged.
Anyone who uses a bow is practicing a skill that makes them a better killer.
Anyone who uses a gun is practicing a skill that makes them a better killer.
Criminals frequently find occasion to practice skills that make them better criminals.
Some of the skills criminals practice make them better killers.
Criminals frequently obtain or build tools designed to kill.
I have no problem with non-criminals learning skills that make them better killers.
I have no problem with non-criminals obtaining tools designed to kill.
I would like all of my friends and family to be expert killers.
I would like the sheep to have teeth.
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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Not at all a popular sentiment, possibly even a dangerous one.
If the sheep had teeth, they might start wondering what they really needed that fat, lazy bully of a sheepdog for - and that leads to all manner of unpleasantness and politically incorrect thoughts.
We have firefighters, so why do you need a fire extinguisher ?
For the same durned reason that most folk pack a firearm.
Think.
-F
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I was wondering how long it would take the know it alls to turn this into a pro/anti gun debate. Had to admit it took much longer than I thought it would in RWED.
Anybody that doesn't have a gun better hope their respective government doesn't ever crumble or bite off more than it can chew. End of story.
I'll give that it is a weapon and it was designed as a weapon.... so what? It's good at what it does and I'd rather see them in more sane individuals hands than lunatics who would do anything for their next fix and officers of a criminal and oppressive police force alike.
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I'm enjoying the discussion but I had to chime in about the whole assault rifle argument. Are you all still talking about home defense? Or are we just at loggerheads with urban versus rural? I can walk out my front door and not see more than one hundred yards in any direction. There is no way in hell that I would need something that was accurate to 400 meters to defend my home (* edited to add: unless someone had detonated a bomb under a bunch of my neighbors. And, at that point, what good am I going to do with an assault rifle? I might as well start mixing chemicals in the basement *). Matter of fact, the sawed off shotgun sounds about right for any place I've lived in (house, apartment, duplex, whatever).
Am I missing something here, or did the conversation go off track somewhat?
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
Am I missing something here, or did the conversation go off track somewhat?
You didn't, and it did. Thanks for seconding that motion.
Let's get this thread back on its topic and anybody who has an opinion on wheather or not somebody else should own a firearm can feel more than free to start their own anti/pro gun thread.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Lemme re-iterate.
It's just a tool.
A match has only one purpose - to start a fire.
Does that make anyone carrying matches an pyromaniac or arsonist?
It's a thing, an object.
Yes it is designed for the express purpose of killing something.
So what ?
Whiskey is designed for the express purpose of intoxication.
Does that make the whiskey, itself.. evil ?
Why do people get so worked up about a mere chunk of metal ?
Answer: They don't, it's a sham.
They get worked up about the thoughts that such self-reliance tend to inspire.
And that tells you all you need to know, doesn't it.
Some people carry tools, and some people ARE tools.
Not really simpler than that.
-Frem
PS... strangely enough, it's a valentines day tradition amongst my fellows to gift weapons, so in that respect, welcome to the club.. pun intended.
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I have some friends who have told me that they like double-action revolvers for home defense.
Compact, easy to use, and can sit loaded all year ready to be used, then picked up and fired without malfunction or worry.
Of course, there are likely some folks who would object to the revolver's 5-7 shot capacity versus a semiautomatic's potential 15 shot capacity or a rifle's 10-30 shot capacity.
Makes my double barrel seem rather measly by comparison to any of them, with only 2 shots.
But they are QUITE the shots. :-)
Currently I have the shotgun loaded in the computer room, and my Makarov loaded in the bedroom. I do worry about the magazine springs for the Makarov, though. If I forget to rotate the magazine, am I going to pick up the weapon one day and have a feed failure?
--Anthony
"Liberty must not be purchased at the cost of Humanity." --Captain Robert Henner
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and now you must worry about wall of flame and smoke, the spread of fires...but 'arson' rumors...no no! there is nothing, move along, nothing to see there!
Palisades fire shoots up to 17,200 acres — 1,000 structures destroyed
https://www.dailynews.com/2025/01/08/palisades-fire-doesnt-grow-much-o
vernight-firefighters-focused-on-structure-defense/
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