The Battle of Serenity Valley
POSTED BY: ManiacNumberOne
UPDATED: Sunday, February 1, 2004 21:11
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The North won the Civil War not just with numbers, but with clever politicking as well.
As for the scene in the pilot, in the background behind the landing craft are the entry trails of DOZENS of ships entering atmosphere. It looks like the Alliance sent reinforcements that way. That was why it was too hot.
Sold out? Don't think so, but then war is an ugly business. Could have happened, but probably not on that kinda scale. Or it could have been a kinda "they're abandoning us" selling out.
Since Joss based the War of Unification loosely (very loosely) upon the Civil War, and thus Firefly on the Reconstruction Era, the Independants fought extremely well. They probably won ALOT of battles, like the South did in CW, but like the South, got overwhelmed, outgunned, and outsupplied.
I think though, that one image as Mal is looking up out of the HQ, looking out at the entry of the Alliance. The look on his face as he realizes just WHAT dropped in...
Jayne: "How big a room?"
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Oh, and if Book IS Gen. Wilkins...omg what will Mal do when he finds out?
Jayne: "How big a room?"
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I have a feeling that Mal already has a general idea of who Book really is. And even though there is much similarity between Firefly's serenity valley battle and the Civil War, I can't make the assumption that both were resolved in the same way.
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What happened to Mal at the end of the Battle of Serenity Valley? I know that he was ordered by the higher-ups to surrender, but I don't think that he did.
I seem to recall that during the message, we get a flashback of Mal saying that he'd never lay down arms. I think that Mal fought on at the battle for Serenity valley, and that he eventually had to run.
Otherwise, shouldn't he be dead, or in some sort of military prison? After the independents were ordered to surrender, they were still getting killed by the Alliance. Mal wouldn't just sit there and die, and we know he didn't.
But did he surrender? If so, it doesn't seem likely that he would just get his military pay and then be allowed to go off and cause havoc.
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Now this is a thought that warrants some consideration. Now ya got me thinking.
You think I look good now, wait till you see me in my new "Browncoat T-shirt" 
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I seem to recall that during the message, we get a flashback of Mal saying that he'd never lay down arms. I think that Mal fought on at the battle for Serenity valley, and that he eventually had to run.
I think Mal meant what he said at the time. That is the battle they flashback to during The Message is earlier in the war than Serenity Valley. Mal may have had no choice this time. Besides the way Zoe describes the aftermath of the battle it seems like all fighting had stopped and survivors on both sides were just left there.
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Otherwise, shouldn't he be dead, or in some sort of military prison? After the independents were ordered to surrender, they were still getting killed by the Alliance. Mal wouldn't just sit there and die, and we know he didn't. But did he surrender? If so, it doesn't seem likely that he would just get his military pay and then be allowed to go off and cause havoc.
Sure troops get killed after a surrender, but eventually most of the killing stops (depends who your captors are). And even if he spent time in a POW camp, he was obviously released.
All that being said it might be cool to have a scene where Mal clearly states that he never personally surrendered. Like John Wayne's character Ethan in The Searcers.
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The story is that a cease fire existed for about 5 days. Mal ended up commanding about 2,000 (?) sick injured and unsupplied troops while the Alliance and Browncoats held peace talks. No medical supplies and no food and water for five days, after a harsh fight, is not good. Only Zoe and himself of his original platoon survived.
POWs are held only until the conclusion of hostilities. He would not be in a military prison 6 after the war ended, unless he HAD run and was continuing guerilla operations long after hostilities had ceased. Granted there is some vetting, and it depends on how much the Geneva convention holds in the Firefly verse, but still, as long as he had surrendered and had ceased hostilities when the war was over, no reason for him to be in prison based on his war record.
"Wash, where is my damn spaceship?"
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That's good story Drakon. Where'd you come by it?
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Wilkins, it does indeed say Wilkins.
Taped it, ran it though audiotraq, cut out the other dialogue and ambience.
General Richard Wilkins, is what it says.
Glad to have been able to clear that one up.
-frem
diefuxdie
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Originally posted by Fremdfirma:
Wilkins, it does indeed say Wilkins.
Taped it, ran it though audiotraq, cut out the other dialogue and ambience.
General Richard Wilkins, is what it says.
Glad to have been able to clear that one up.
-frem
diefuxdie
Wilkins was the last name of Adam Baldwin's character in "The Patriot." Is this a cool in-joke or what?
"My heart bleeds for you." --Citizen Captain De Sangro, to Citizen First Lieutenant Timmons.
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