Vote for Firefly (We're #3)! X

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FLYVOTE

Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:37 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by StormCat:
I kow you want to get FF past Xena,
...
anybodies help but Xenites and Bonanza fans it might

We want to be ahead of Xena and Bonanza. If we solicit the help of a Xena fan that casts an equal number of votes for Xena as Firefly, then the relative positions will not change. That's why the reference to Xenites and Bonanza fans stated previously. Nothing meant as anything negative. Does that make sense to you now?

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Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:42 PM

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Originally posted by derangedmilk:
Well the poll is only for this week but by all means, go for it. KEEP VOTING BROWNCOATS!!!!!!

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DECAF

Sunday, February 18, 2007 9:47 PM

I assume most fans vote on that poll for the pride they have in the show(s) they love. Nothin' wrong with that, but Firefly fans are browncoats for a reason... we were on the losing side. I have plenty of respect for Xena, but it had 6 seasons to tell its story. Though I'm not one for bashing others, I'm sure there will be comments elsewhere that sound angry and spiteful. You will for one simple reason... those who still hold out for Firefly's continuance know that they desperately need to make a statement that people will make people take notice. There's nothing wrong with fighting for prestige, but we fight existance.... and ours tends to be the bloodier battle.

Xena will make 250,000 first... that's inevitable. That's great news for a show that shattered expectations in a new and very risky way.

But what if Firefly was going to instead? As a fan base we've tried over and over again to prove that it is a marketable franchise, so wouldn't hitting a quarter million votes first amongst all the other voting make an impact? Numbers seem to be the only thing execs will base a decision on, and here they are.

That won't happen for this benchmark, for better or worse. I hope that the significant showing that we have put together will not be diminished by our coming in a still respectable third.

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JORUNE

Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:50 PM

Hear, Hear Decaf. I second your sentiment and hope that we may achieve 2nd place before the 250k mark is broken.

STORMCAT

Monday, February 19, 2007 12:24 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by FlyVote:
Quote:
Originally posted by StormCat:
I kow you want to get FF past Xena,
...
anybodies help but Xenites and Bonanza fans it might

We want to be ahead of Xena and Bonanza. If we solicit the help of a Xena fan that casts an equal number of votes for Xena as Firefly, then the relative positions will not change. That's why the reference to Xenites and Bonanza fans stated previously. Nothing meant as anything negative. Does that make sense to you now?

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I do understand, but do you really think you will get past Xena before 250,000? You may have a few dozen more votes then XWP, with the expection of lately because you have fueledour votes to over 1300 (thanks)but you still need to more then double your votes, so next best think would get Xena fans to help boost you to the number 2 spot.

STORMCAT

Monday, February 19, 2007 12:35 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Decaf:
I assume most fans vote on that poll for the pride they have in the show(s) they love. Nothin' wrong with that, but Firefly fans are browncoats for a reason... we were on the losing side. I have plenty of respect for Xena, but it had 6 seasons to tell its story. Though I'm not one for bashing others, I'm sure there will be comments elsewhere that sound angry and spiteful. You will for one simple reason... those who still hold out for Firefly's continuance know that they desperately need to make a statement that people will make people take notice. There's nothing wrong with fighting for prestige, but we fight existance.... and ours tends to be the bloodier battle.

Xena will make 250,000 first... that's inevitable. That's great news for a show that shattered expectations in a new and very risky way.

But what if Firefly was going to instead? As a fan base we've tried over and over again to prove that it is a marketable franchise, so wouldn't hitting a quarter million votes first amongst all the other voting make an impact? Numbers seem to be the only thing execs will base a decision on, and here they are.

That won't happen for this benchmark, for better or worse. I hope that the significant showing that we have put together will not be diminished by our coming in a still respectable third.

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"The probability that we may fail in the struggle ought not to deter us from the support of a cause we believe to be just."
- Abraham Lincoln

Your preacing to the choir here *G* I love FF, and if Joss had written in one gay character that would have attracted a lot of the Xena fandom over. It worked for Buffy when he chose to make Willow gay. I would have been a FF fan from the start instead of buying the SErenity DVD, loving it and then buying the FF dvd's to see what I missed. This show could have gone far. Hell all Xena did for the first 5 season was toss us some crumbs now and then and look how the lesbians ate it up. At least FF was set in the future, we lesbians are very loyal and we have A LOT of money to burn, and if you had even been to aa Xena con and watched on lesbian bid $40,000 for the Xena sword then write a check for it you would want a part of that market. Showtime realized it hence Queer as Folk, now the L Word. I know I have kind of gotten off topic, but basically what I am trying to say is Joss burnt his own bridge! Hordes of Xena fans flocked to Buffy when Willow got a girlfriend, just think of where FF would be had made one of those 4 beautiful women a lesbian? It would have brought a lot more guys to the show too.

I'm just rambling, I am voting for FF, just not every hour, gotta make sure Xena gets the numbers first.

DECAF

Monday, February 19, 2007 3:14 AM

I guess what I love about Firefly is that it is timeless. The parts that deal with what we call issues now are never the point of the show. I was big into ST:TNG when I was growing up, but I have a hard time watching an episode now. I'm past it I guess.

Bringing in a lesbian character may boost ratings, get Fox's attention (they love sex appeal after all) and confront some important issues... but that's just it. Firefly doesn't confront issues. Its lives on the other side of the issue. Zoe and Wash are interracially married... but so what? In that time frame that's not important. Its not tackling the issue, but rather ignoring it.

That doesn't mean a lesbian couldn't be a character, but I think it would seem forced... as if Joss was thinking "how many issues can I deal with on one flying wagon train?" I thought War Stories did a fine job of making clear the show's stance without making it a plot device. I also thought it was an interesting character study, but that's for another thread

Can I say issue any more in one post?
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RMMC

Monday, February 19, 2007 4:47 AM

*bump*

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ROY

Monday, February 19, 2007 10:12 AM

What the was that that just blew by us. Anyone get the number plates ?

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Monday, February 19, 2007 12:12 PM

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