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POSTED BY: msg
UPDATED: Friday, February 9, 2007 23:40
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 4:02 PM
Quote:...I won't.
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:Quote:Sweet of you
Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
technically what i do is care work, so i guess i'll let you off
But I imagine that's unimportant...
...and probably a discussion for somewhere not here. (?)
I don't think anyone expected you to so set aside your principle's as to forgive
makes me think, i was talking to a therapist recently (yes, even though i am but a noddy, they know i exist!) and he said (okay, well, it was my father, but that still counts!) that he'd been on a board looking into the possibility of getting practice's involving 'energy centres' around the body looked into for potential registration, officiality and so on. they were trying to find a way of doing research without being seen to do research, there's evidence it works, but they don't want to be seen to be taking it seriously in case it turns out to be nothing much. don't know if they do the same over the pond, but there's certainly a thriving market in alternative medicine's in the UK. just got to find yourself a niche and push it open ^_~
although most of the one's offering 'alternative' insight's into the guy's i work with have about as realistic a perspective on things as, well, the guys i work with...
Gods are great. But the heart is greater, for it is from the heart they come, and to the heart they shall return.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 4:12 PM
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Originally posted by msg:
Anyway, he uses alternative meds as well as regular traditional stuff and he focuses more on keeping people healthy. It's way cool, but mostly back east.
Yep - You go to regular med school but you get what is called a D.O. (Doctor of Osteopathy) rather than a M.D.
Lots of DO's in this area. They focus on keeping you well and trying "alternative things" rather than surgery/pharmaceuticals being the first (and only) choices for a MD.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 4:13 PM
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Originally posted by CaliforniaKaylee:
Btw Whitefall, I know I mentioned this before, but I'm still in favor of starting at the place that gives you a scholarship, and transferring to the more prestigious school later. Your first couple of years of college are spent on general ed and the 101 level requirements for your major anyway, and the California universities are so good about transfers, it seems a shame to pass up a scholarship, even for just those first two years.
~CK
You can't take the sky from me...
whoa CK is still around? Haven't seen you post in ages.
So, I sorta disagree with this part a bit. My first two years of college is when I made all my good friends there. After that school work and finding a job took up so much time I wouldn't have been able to focus on meeting people at all. Granted you could just make all your friends at the scholarship college and then just be a loner at the transfer college.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 4:30 PM
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Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:Quote:...I won't.
Originally posted by Hell's Kitten:Quote:
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:Quote:Sweet of you
Originally posted by Oddsbodskins:
technically what i do is care work, so i guess i'll let you off
But I imagine that's unimportant...
...and probably a discussion for somewhere not here. (?)
I don't think anyone expected you to so set aside your principle's as to forgive
makes me think, i was talking to a therapist recently (yes, even though i am but a noddy, they know i exist!) and he said (okay, well, it was my father, but that still counts!) that he'd been on a board looking into the possibility of getting practice's involving 'energy centres' around the body looked into for potential registration, officiality and so on. they were trying to find a way of doing research without being seen to do research, there's evidence it works, but they don't want to be seen to be taking it seriously in case it turns out to be nothing much. don't know if they do the same over the pond, but there's certainly a thriving market in alternative medicine's in the UK. just got to find yourself a niche and push it open ^_~
First: What? What did I say to annoy Hell's Kitten now? I thought she put implants in animals and stuff like that, not draining blood out of sick people and emptying bedpans that kind of thing...
Second: It is defintely not the same here from what I've seen. Alternatives are embraced in Europe to a FAR greater extent than here.
The D.O. thing sounds interesting, though. Perhaps that would feel less... restricted to me. Dug makes an excellent point about taking artistic pursuits and turning them into money. That's the issue I've had with becoming a graphic designer (that combined with how competitive it is...)
Okay, NOW my head feels ready to explode!
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 5:16 PM
Mav- Ok thank you that was driving me nuts!! Yes DO is what my brother in law is going to be. There's a great medical school in Kirksville Missouri that specializes in it. He's going to be fantastic at it too. He really liked the idea of trying to keep people well instead of focusing on treating them once they got sick.
Hell's Kitten I am now truly confused and picturing a guinea pig with breast implants. Now I am wondering why in the world you'd need to sex up guinea pigs
"I'm not all that interested in the mental health of people who want to kill me. "- Leroy Jethro Gibbs
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 5:19 PM
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Originally posted by JonnyQuest:
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
Going waaaaay back to the old thread: Yes, rugbug, the rumur aspect has been verified.
I must have missed RugBug's post. Just curious why our resident equestrian showed an interest...?
Now, now. Let's not get all "RugBug really enjoys those animals, if you know what I mean" on me here. If you read the previous post, I had some personal knowledge b/c of a guy on another board. He owned a few stallions and "enjoyed" them quite a bit. Even posting photographic evidence (on a complete different board...one dedicated to beastiality...who knew THAT existed on the internet). Really nasty stuff...(I also stated that I didn't look at the pictures because you just can't wipe those images out of your head and I didn't want to live with them.) The wierdest part is my interaction with this guy started over a discussion of human/equine emotional cognizance. His theory was the horses and animals are basically the same. I disagreed. A year or two later, when his beastiality came to light, his messages made so much more sense...in a very disturbing way. His whole philosophy and probably why he was okay with molesting his animals was because we were all the same. The whole thing was just an icky experience. The guy is now in jail...for trafficking cocaine. He got busted smuggling 372 pounds of coke from Canada to Washington.
And enough of that ickiness...
MSG: Contrary to what experience might dictate for me, I do believe teaching can be a great profession, you just really have to want to be a teacher. I didn't like it, but if I had, I think it would've been great. Some people are under the false impression that teaching is easy and are in it for the vacations. Well, you pay for those vacations in the first few years...and every time you have to switch a grade and redo ALL your lesson plans, etc.
I taught 6th grade, so the kids were definitely old enough to have some fun with. Actually, they were quite fun, at times. 6th graders are just learning how to express themselves and their opinions. Helping them think critically about their world and their opinions was one of the most enjoyable times I had while teaching.
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"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 5:29 PM
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Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
First: What? What did I say to annoy Hell's Kitten now?
Second: The D.O. thing sounds interesting, though. Perhaps that would feel less... restricted to me.
Dug makes an excellent point about taking artistic pursuits and turning them into money. That's the issue I've had with becoming a graphic designer (that combined with how competitive it is...)
I didn't think it was possible to say or do anything to set HK off. Or you, for that matter...
Having had a bad DO experience makes me a little gunshy of them. But as I've pointed out myself there are quacks in every field. And the there are surely good ones as well. It's just in my experience I haven't found one. Of course, I'm not likely to since I stopped looking
I was too slow to be marketable as a commercial artist even though I studied for it for a semester my senior year in high school. But show me an ad and I can tell you exactly what's wrong with it. Is there a market for people who piss people off? Besides comedy and terrorism?
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 5:46 PM
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Originally posted by RugBug:
He owned a few stallions and "enjoyed" them quite a bit. The guy is now in jail...for trafficking cocaine.
The most important thing is that POS is behind bars.
I've said it before, I don't care what two consenting adults do to or with each other as long as it doesn't involve children or animals.
Neither can give their consent, and that is key to any sexual act. IMO.
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 6:07 PM
EDIT: Oh, jeez, how's this for bad timing...
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Originally posted by msg:
Hell's Kitten I am now truly confused and picturing a guinea pig with breast implants. Now I am wondering why in the world you'd need to sex up guinea pigs
Figure 10 - Sexing a female Guinea Pig
Apparently there's a market for it...
No guinea pigs were harmed in the making of this graphic.
Anyway, RB, PR pointed me in the direction of your post, so let's not mention it again, okay?
"Well, here I am...Does that seem right to you?"
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Thursday, February 8, 2007 6:15 PM
Quote:Huh?
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
First: What? What did I say to annoy Hell's Kitten now?
If you read that as annoyance, I apologize for not being more clear. (I don't think it's possible for you to annoy me.)
I was just responding to your statement "After all, it's late in the day for me, and I despise the medical establishment for many and varied reasons. (Odds, if you're reading this, I know you do the nursing thing, but come on, you hate it
)", and probably should have put one of those cute little smiley things after it.Quote:and
Originally posted by PhoenixRose:
I thought she put implants in animals and stuff like that, not draining blood out of sick people and emptying bedpans that kind of thing...
Quote:*hee hee hee snort!*
Originally posted by msg:
Hell's Kitten I am now truly confused and picturing a guinea pig with breast implants. Now I am wondering why in the world you'd need to sex up guinea pigs
No, no.
Animal studies are part of the requirements for the devices we develop. (You know. Instead of putting something untested and unproven into some poor, fragile human being.) Guinea pigs are too small for implants; we generally use other animals.... We even saved a race horse! But that's another story and I'm not sure if patient confidentiality would be in play... *snikker*
At any rate, as part of the "medical establishment," I imagine I have a little different perspective and understanding of the practice, regulations, and industry as a whole. I confess to getting somewhat weary of the misconceptions that are bandied about and thrown back in various ways as accusations. I won't ramble on, as I don't know the specificities that evoke such disdain, but I would be happy to address any points or questions as best I can.
*skitters away from the looming soapbox*
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