Doyle. & Angel .*Spoilers* (just in case you haven't seen season 1 yet )
POSTED BY: LittleAlbatross29
UPDATED: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 03:39
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I recently bought Angel & started watching season 1 ,which I haven't seen since it aired.What a difference fdrom the teenage angst of Buffy.
This show was cancelled , why exactly ? Oh yeah , I should be used to it by now.
But I digress.
WHY oh why did they kill Doyle ??? He was very funny, demonic, and adorable.I just can't wrap my brain around why they would kill him to have him be replaced by Wesley the bumbling idiot whom I never liked.I really think he could have brough much more to the story than Wes ever did.
Were there problems with the actor ? Or maybe Boreanaz didn't want to share the brooding spotlight ? I ask again , why kill Doyle ???
Any thoughts on this one , Browncoats ?
Bryce
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I don't know if there were problems with glenn quinn but a couple of years later he died of a herion overdose so I don't know if he was struggling with that while he was on angel.
at the time I recall joss saying he did it to shake people up, stop them getting complacent in the new world of angel. I guess being a spin-off you have to fight harder for respect and killing a loveable character is the best way joss knows how 
and remember this was before we expected it of him, jenny calendar had been killed but she wasn't as much of a main character, so it was a real shocker, not like now where you just know the coolest, sweetest person's gonna get it.
joss also said at the time that wesley wasn't replacing doyle, cordelia was replacing doyle and wesley was just coming in as himself. I love wes anyway though so I'm biased. doyle was a great character but we didn't get enough time to know him properly 
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I knew that it was Joss probably stirring things up , but I still can't get used to it.I really liked Doyle & wish we could have gotten to know him better.
Wes just never did it for me.Especially knowing what happens later on !
And that is just such a shame about Glenn's death.
Bryce
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Originally posted by LittleAlbatross29:
Or maybe Boreanaz didn't want to share the brooding spotlight ?
Boreanaz and Quinn were actually very good friends, and hung out together alot off-screen while Glenn was on Angel. From what I've heard, that was one of the reasons he was let go. His problems with drugs were apparently pretty obvious to the rest of the cast & crew (and I guess caused some difficulties with shooting, at times), and the producers worried that he might drag the star of their show down into the same sort of situation...
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Doyle was great. I hate it that Glenn lost control of his life, and I don't know if he had been more stable, it would have saved his spot on Angel He really played well w/ Charisma, imo. Talk about longing for that which he'd never attain.....I really liked how Doyle did the mock t.v. ad, and Angel finding the demo tape in S5. Nice touch, there.
If there's a criticism I have about Joss, it's that there's too many deaths of great characters. If he wants to write someone out of a show, he could have them just leave. It's always w/ the killing though.... I find it a bit much sometimes.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Angel and Oz both just left at one point. Well I guess Angel was killed previously but the second time.....oh you get the point.
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The thing is, Joss's verses are full of demons, lawyers, and cannibalistic space pirates. It's dangerous. If you and your friends were constantly being chased by things that want to kill you...someone's gonna get killed. It's all realistic to the world(s). If you don't want anyone to die at all, then the danger aspect couldn't be there and they would be completely different shows.
When it comes to the good guys, it doesn't make a lot of sense for them to leave. "Everyone I love nearly gets their face eaten every day by beasties... see ya!" They stay because they are good and want to help their friends.
Well, except Oz. He left, and is apparently still alive and occasionally fuzzy somewhere out there.
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Originally posted by wratchit:
Angel and Oz both just left at one point. Well I guess Angel was killed previously but the second time.....oh you get the point.
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I was referring more to Joss's handling in all his works, not just one show. Oz left because Seth Green went on to bigger and better things. Angel left to star in...Angel. So did he really leave ? Naww. Thankfully, he kept Amy Acker around as Ilyria in Angel, after Fred died. But she wasn't Fred.
Just thinking of who died ( and stayed dead )in Joss's shows here...
Tara, Jenny Calander, Joyce Summers , Doyle, Cordelia, Wesley, Fred, Darla, Merle, Warren and Jonathan, Book, Wash, Lilah, Lindsey, .... y'all know the list. It seems to go on and on.
People love a happy ending. So every episode, I will explain once again that I don't like people. And then Mal will shoot someone. Someone we like. And their puppy. - Joss
" They don't like it when you shoot at 'em. I worked that out myself. "
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Originally posted by Groosalugg:
From what I've heard, that was one of the reasons he was let go. His problems with drugs were apparently pretty obvious to the rest of the cast & crew (and I guess caused some difficulties with shooting, at times), and the producers worried that he might drag the star of their show down into the same sort of situation...
Where did you hear that from?
Joss has said many times that Doyle was intended to be killed off early, something he'd wanted to do since the start of Buffy (where he'd wanted to include Jesse in the opening credits of the pilot). And as cynical as I can be at times, I'm willing to believe him.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
Just thinking of who died ( and stayed dead )in Joss's shows here...
Tara, Jenny Calander, Joyce Summers , Doyle, Cordelia, Wesley, Fred, Darla, Merle, Warren and Jonathan, Book, Wash, Lilah, Lindsey, .... y'all know the list. It seems to go on and on.
If the original poster of this thread didn't know Doyle died, why would you post a spoilery list of the casualties from all the shows??
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