River vs Love?
POSTED BY: OrangeHat
UPDATED: Tuesday, August 28, 2007 17:16
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Don't make faces
You know, I believe you might be right! Then again, I think we all agree that River's actions and speech are just about as opened to interpretation as they make them. That being so, a consensus about why she behaves the way she does can never realy be reached.
So, River and love?
I agree that the River we saw throughout the Series and the BDM was too scattered to deal with it. However, I think there is hope. Hey, she's already gotten significantly better since Simon broke her out, to the point where Mal could consider to take her out on a job. He would not have done this, desperate as he was, if he hadn't thought her stable enough. Whether it is due to Simon's careful monitoring or a natural healing process (don't pull a "brains don't grow back" on me, I'm talking about healing from trauma), she has gathered enough control over herself to live like a person. And I tend to disregard the "she feels everything, she can't not" diagnosis to an extent, as it is quite evident, by the end of the BDM, that she CAN put a damp on it if need be. She's done it, she can do it again. It might be a steep learning curve, but she has the time and she sure as hell has the will. Now, even though Miranda broadwave obviously shed a weight of her shoulders ("I'm all right, I'm all right!"), she will never be the girl next door. She will have the occasionnal break down (then again who hasn't?) and quite possibly the bouts of cryptic speech, but she is healing, and in time she should be just about okay.
Now, on to love. Given her baggage, she hasn't been given the luxury to ponder about love much. But she is young, and she is a genuine (though emotionaly unbalanced) super genius. She has experienced love to an extent ; Love from her brother, love for her home, love for/from her family, etc. Sure, none of these involves romantic love, still, she is familiar with affection, and that's a start. Given that, and her incredible cognitive potential, I think she can learn to love. After all, she is a fascinating person, all it takes is an open mind. It would definitely require time, years, for her to even feel the need to have someone in her life, but she would get there.
Bottom line: Years post-BDM, if she hangs with the right crew, she just might stumble upon a fitting person. A fairy tale? Not so much. A man far enough on the cranky side to connect with her would obviously have a few issues of his own. Whether or not such a relationship would last is up in the air. Nevertheless, I will always root for her to get better, and find whatever happiness she can. Quotes Mal: "Now I ain't saying there is much of it to be had, but on the off chance there is, she, among all the people in this gorram 'Verse, deserves a little of it."
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Okay, so it's been said i think once or twice on this thread, but let me repeat it: River can have a relationship. Trust me, I've dated some crazies in my time. (There aren't relationship police out there to stop them, there should be.) River is a growing person, crazy or not, she's got feelings that since the BDM she can actually sort thru a few of her own at a more leisurely pace, get to know who she is. So, yeah, I write Rayne, but i don't think it's canon or anything. I just think it's fun. i mentioned this in a post of my own... spike didn't come into S2 of buffy with the plan to become obsessed with buffy, try to rape her in S6 and then go get a soul for her. It took development, LOTS of it! River can have a relationship in the future, how else will she learn? the rest of us have crappy, crazy, funky relationships, why wouldn't she? Even crazy people have feelings.
It doesn't have to be with Jayne, or Mal, not like they are the only people in the 'verse. But I see why the fic comes up, they are the men on the ship with her. Proximity does funny things to hormones.
let me sum up:
i heart rayne, but i don't think it's canon
river most certainly can have a relationship because all sorts of other crazies do
Jayne Cobb, the Dick Casablancas of Firefly
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Quote:Hmm. Interesting. I admit, I never even imagined that she was aware and playing a joke. I'll watch it again. Gotta say though, it'd take a lot to convince she was really just playing.
Originally posted by EmmaZule:Quote:*snerk!* I'm sorry, I just don't see it.
Originally posted by mal4prez:
Yeah, so I don't think she was just playing or being ironic in that CSI scene with Simon. She really is that disconnected.
Quote:Um... but who's to say she was kidding? Maybe she believed it. She's seen herself do some violence (River Tam Sessions... she killed Joss!) and she knows her brain is weird. Maybe she thinks she can kill with her brain.
It's not the first time we've seen her put on over on someone - "Also, I can kill you with my brain", remember?
I'm not disagreeing that she has a sense of humor and she's a brat, but I'm not convinced that she was aware of what she was doing in all the scenes you bring up. Certainly, by OiS she was together enough to form a plan and mess with Early, but I don't think every detail of her behavior was planned out. I think she giggled because she was amused. I think she talked about his mother because she was having a very real reaction to what she saw on his ship.
Quote:River calling YSB a thief doesn't imply lucidity. She's voicing the things she senses, which happen to be true things, but that's still her living in her own mental world.
In Our Mrs. Reynolds, though, she seems fairly lucid, what little we get to see of her - she even calls YoSaffBridge a thief, remember?
It's the same thing with the canned food - I'm sure she's rattling off a truth about the bad stuff the Blue Sun Corp put in there, but that doesn't mean she's sane and aware while she says it all.
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