One stupid thing about Angel Season 5 (spoilers)-OR- one, two, three, four; I declare a flame war!
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Saturday, January 20, 2007 07:01
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Fred's soul was DESTROYED??
WTF?!?!?
DESTROYED??? What a lame-ass way the drag tears out of an unsuspecting audience!!!
And how exactly do you do such a thing???
Don't you think something like that is a red flag for GOD??? Like he would allow that power in any of his creations?
And for non-believers, how does that fit in with the law of the conservation of energy???
It don't make no kind of sense, and it was STUPID!!!!
Flame ON Chrisisall
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Fred's soul was DESTROYED??
WTF?!?!?
DESTROYED??? What a lame-ass way the drag tears out of an unsuspecting audience!!!
And how exactly do you do such a thing???
Don't you think something like that is a red flag for GOD??? Like he would allow that power in any of his creations?
And for non-believers, how does that fit in with the law of the conservation of energy???
It don't make no kind of sense, and it was STUPID!!!!
Okay so you're assuming that there is only one God, and they are all-powerful, whereas it's Buffyverse canon that there are in fact several Gods, and they aren't (eg. Glory, Osiris, Hecate, Illyria herself was supposedly God to a God!)
The Buffyverse isn't monotheistic, for all we know Jehovah is merely one of the Powers-That-Be. Maybe he just doesn't have the power to stop the Blue Meanie.
As for conservation of energy that doesn't really apply as the destruction of Fred's Soul could have merely been its complete conversion into energy (like say a matter/antimatter explosion) rather than its complete erasure from existance.
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Hurrah, hurrah, when things are at their worst
With cries of “Death or Glory” comes the mighty Twenty-First
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Quote:I don't assume ANYTHING, you self-righteous IDIOT!!! (...remember, Flame War here, we gotta be all mean and full of the ad-hominem and such)
Originally posted by Hotpoint:
Okay so you're assuming that there is only one God
Quote:Well, thank you Mr. Wizard, that just answers ALL my questions concerning the scientific plausability of destroying a soul!!
As for conservation of energy that doesn't really apply as the destruction of Fred's Soul could have merely been its complete conversion into energy (like say a matter/antimatter explosion) rather than its complete erasure from existance.
It was just writers bending THEIR OWN RULES to make us all weepy, and you don't see it because you're Joss' BITCH!!!!
Chrisisall (doing the angry-fan thing to the hilt
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I'm too lazy to do the 'angry' thing, but...
I don't necessarily buy it that her soul was destroyed. The source for that info was the weirdo doctor, and Angel & co. never bothered investigating it further to see if he was correct (brilliant, guys 
). Now, if that revelation had come from Knox, who was the big cheese in that whole deal (the Qwa'ha Xahn), I would've believed he knew what he was talking about, but the doc was just way too much of a tool to trust that he knew the real deal on the whole thing.
Also, when it comes to a show like Buffy or Angel, with all kinds of magickal and mystical elements, even if her soul had been destroyed, the writers can always think up some way of un-doing that and getting it back. From what I heard, in S6 it was planned that Fred would be brought back somehow, and Amy would then play dual roles, as both Fred and Illyria.
For whatever that's worth...
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
I don't assume ANYTHING, you self-righteous IDIOT!!! (...remember, Flame War here, we gotta be all mean and full of the ad-hominem and such)
I leave such tactics to inferior beings
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Well, thank you Mr. Wizard, that just answers ALL my questions concerning the scientific plausability of destroying a soul!!
Since it was never established what a soul was made of who's to say?
In any case if your hypothetical "God" is all powerful then they must themselves have the power to destroy a soul which means that a soul must be capable of being destroyed
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
It was just writers bending THEIR OWN RULES to make us all weepy, and you don't see it because you're Joss' BITCH!!!!
You want to get some flamey reaction? Watch and learn junior...
Joss Whedon was a wimp, I'd have had the last Season of Buffy and/or Angel with the Scoobs and/or the Fang Gang fighting to stop the HellGod Jehovah from initiating the story from Revelations.
For that matter when are we going to see Jehovah as a Minor Goa'uld System Lord in SG1? Sci-Fi scriptwriters are such wusses
Okay so that should stir up some response
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Hurrah, hurrah, when things are at their worst
With cries of “Death or Glory” comes the mighty Twenty-First
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Quote:Piss on our heroes, why don't ya??? Like you would have Sherlock Holmesed it better.
Originally posted by Groosalugg:
Angel & co. never bothered investigating it further to see if he was correct (brilliant, guys
Why do you hate Angel?
Quote:And gotten twice the sallary too, I'll bet! So who was Amy sleeping with to get THAT gig?
From what I heard, in S6 it was planned that Fred would be brought back somehow, and Amy would then play dual roles, as both Fred and Illyria.
Sell your story to the Enquirer, you lazy gossipy weasle!!!!
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The whole 'soul destroyed' point was worth it for Alexis to deliver that wrenching line 'Nothing is alright!'.
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Quote:I'm rubber, you're glue....
Originally posted by Hotpoint:
I leave such tactics to inferior beings
Quote:But NOT by magic or anything less than God HIMself (see, God is a DUDE!!!)
In any case if your hypothetical "God" is all powerful then they must themselves have the power to destroy a soul which means that a soul must be capable of being destroyed
Quote:You freakin' BLASPHEMER!
Joss Whedon was a wimp, I'd have had the last Season of Buffy and/or Angel with the Scoobs and/or the Fang Gang fighting to stop the HellGod Jehovah from initiating the story from Revelations.
I may not be Joss' bitch, but I do respect the man! You go to a special Hell for that one, my friend!
(Oh, and that Revelations crack won't get you any favours from the Big Guy, either.)
Angry, verbose and brimming with, er, brimstone Chrisisall
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Quote:*gently pokes SerenityinScotland* (dude, you need some ad-hominem attacks with that, I'll help ya out...)
Originally posted by SerenityinScotland:
The whole 'soul destroyed' point was worth it for Alexis to deliver that wrenching line 'Nothing is alright!'.
The whole 'soul destroyed' point was worth it for Alexis to deliver that wrenching line 'Nothing is alright!', you'd see that if you weren't such a douchebag, Chrisisall!!!!!
Listen, Highlander, there can be only one POV that's worthwhile here, and it sure ain't YOURS!!!!!!
Frothing at the mouth Chrisisall
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(In the spirit of flaming.) 
I think you guys have totally missed the point. *Sigh* The only stupid thing about Angel season five is that it was the FINAL season! Come on! That is the only thing that never made sense, and was truly STUPID. Why God, Why?!
If anyone disagrees, they need their head checked. Nuff said.
Oh.. Just to add.. If anyone DARES to mention the Angel puppet as one stupid thing about season 5, I will come around to your house with a very large stick.
(I feel so much better now.. Seriously, excellent thread Chris.) 
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