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Re: Bladerunner - How many replicants?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

POSTED BY: TurquoiseBoat
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Friday, December 8, 2006 12:35 AM

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Originally posted by chrisisall:
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Originally posted by TurquoiseBoat:

The next thing we hear is Bryant talking about still needing to kill four replicants, because another replicant has just escaped from Tyrell Corps. Wouldn't that bring the tally back up to five?



The number was always a little loopy. Six escaped in the shuttle that landed on Earth. One supposedly got 'fried' in an electronic fence or something prior to the beginning of the movie, which makes five, Zorah gets it, that leaves four and then Rachael jumped ship from Tyrell. With Rachael, that should make five. There always seemed to be one unaccounted for (Or maybe it's been too long and I'm not remembering it right, I've been holding out for the longest time for the release due out this year).

Confused Chrisisall

I'm pretty sure the conversation is along the lines of:
Police commissioner type guy: "Just Five more to go"
Deckard: "There's Four, four more!"
PCTG: "Wrong, that skin job you VK'd at tyrell has just turned up missing."



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Friday, December 8, 2006 12:57 AM

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/trivia has this to say:
The dialogue in all releases of the movie alludes to another replicant who dies before Deckard's final battles with Pris and Batty. The conflicting dialogue occurs in the first conversation between Deckard and Bryant. Bryant initially tells Deckard there are four "skin jobs" on the loose, but minutes later says six escaped, and one was killed by the "electronic gate", which should leave five. The explanation is that the script originally contained an additional replicant named "Mary", but time and budgetary constraints resulted in her being written out. M. Emmet Walsh who plays Bryant, reports that new dialogue was recorded to change the number of replicants in this scene, but Scott inexplicably only used half of the new dialogue, resulting in the inconsistency.
There's also a discussion further down (under the heading "spoilers") of the scripts and how many replicants are in each draft.

If you want the scripts themselves, go to:
http://www.brmovie.com/Downloads/Docs/BR_Scripts.htm


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Friday, December 8, 2006 1:00 AM

I have to say it, some of the lip sync is utter crap. When deckard is interrogating that snake guy, you can hear Deckard talking but the Snake guy's lips are moving and he's gesticulating wildly. Its a scene that has always bothered me, makes the film feel, less finsihed.



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Friday, December 8, 2006 1:38 AM

...which is ironic, given how obnoxiously perfectionist Ridley Scott is always said to be (especially as regards to this movie.)

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Friday, December 8, 2006 2:46 AM

I always thought Rachel was the last, Pris, Zhora, 2 men and Rachel. That would be 5. Over the years Decker was suppose to be one even though Harrison Ford disagrees with it. Great movie. The detective that shadowed Decker was suppose to wax Decker. But that'a all in the wash.





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Friday, December 8, 2006 2:40 PM

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Originally posted by citizen:
I have to say it, some of the lip sync is utter crap. When deckard is interrogating that snake guy, you can hear Deckard talking but the Snake guy's lips are moving and he's gesticulating wildly. Its a scene that has always bothered me, makes the film feel, less finsihed.


This is the part where I hijack this thread to say that when the new 'Ultimate Cut' comes out this year, I will, of course be drooling over Ridley's final version, but it's the old 'narrated' version that will get the most play with me (crap lip-synching and visible lines on the spinners included) ; it's the version I went to the theatres 20 or more times to see, and the version that gives it that 40's detective-retro feel. The fact that Harrison read the lines so flat so as to discourage their use only makes the reading all the more realistic to me, given Deckard's world-weary 'tude.



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Friday, December 8, 2006 3:02 PM

I agree with you, chrisisall. While I am looking forward to the ultimate cut, I was raised on the version you speak of. Seeing the first Director's cut through me off...where was the voice-over?!?
Still. I will give the new one a chance, and when it is over, I will throw the time-worn Beta copy into the machine and watch it for old-time's sake.

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Friday, December 8, 2006 3:12 PM

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Originally posted by Tristan:
I will give the new one a chance, and when it is over, I will throw the time-worn Beta copy into the machine and watch it for old-time's sake.


Why Beta? The narrated version is supposed to be included in the 'Ultimate Cut' (the Final Cut will be just the newest version).

See here: http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa121.html#brse

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Friday, December 8, 2006 3:20 PM

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There's also the ever-raging "Is Deckard a Replicant" debate.


Harrison played him with no idea that he was; Ridley says now that he is- I guess you could take it either way. That's the beauty of this film!

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Friday, December 8, 2006 3:30 PM

Chrisisall, the Beta tape was the first copy of it that I owned outright. So, it's more nostalgia than anything else. I am happy to hear that version will be on the Ultimate Cut...thank you for that!

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