Is it 1974 again?
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 22:31
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Originally posted by canttakesky:
Has this been done before? Frogleaping from war to war?
Usually not from a loss or stalemate...
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Quote:BWAHAhahahahahahah!!!!!!
Originally posted by Cruithne3753:
Sunni and Shia? Didn't they once have a hit with "I Got You Babe"?
I'm peein' now Chrisisall
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Quote:If you can come up with some better lyrics, I'd like to see you try.
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
That's like saying it is okay to loot that electronics store because a hurricane broke the front windows.
The Sunnis have been killing the Shiites and vice versa for a lot longer than Bush has been around. They are simply using the 'occupation' as an excuse to step up their efforts.
The Kurds, OTOH, seem to be outside of the sectarian violence for a change and seem to be happy to stay that way.
Posting to stir stuff up.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
No one can see their reflection in running water. It is only in still water that we can see.
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Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:Quote:
Originally posted by citizen:
Don't blame it on Sunnis
Don't blame it on Shiites
Don't blame it on Kurds
Blame it on the bushie
The Sunnis have been killing the Shiites and vice versa for a lot longer than Bush has been around. They are simply using the 'occupation' as an excuse to step up their efforts.
Yup, that's true, but it's also true that when Saddam was in power, he kept the sectarian violence at a minimum--admittedly, for his own evil reasons, and through vile and ugly methods, but he did. The whole reason he was allowed to remain in power after Gulf War I was that, bitter as the fact was, he was a stabilizing factor in the region.
It reminds me of the old 1960's/1970's joke: Q. "What two words keeps Nixon from being asassinated?" A. "President Agnew." Nobody's stupid enough to take out the man with his hand on a dead-man switch. At least, nobody was until George II and his crack team of yes-men donned their rose-colored glasses and initiated a two-front war. After all, the Iraqis would all unite to welcome their liberators with open arms, strewing rose petals in their path.
Truly, when Saddam hangs, there will be laughter in hell.
And so, through the classic strategic error of believing your own propaganda, the Bush Administration has drawn us into a morass with no easy exit. I'll admit, I can see no way out of the current situation quickly. I can only hope someone else, much wiser than I am, can see a path, and implement it. But I doubt that will happen before the current administration is removed from office.
"She's tore up plenty. But she'll fly true." -- Zoë Washburn
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I just hope we don't screw over the Kurds again. They're the only (relatively) sane ones over there, and they've taken up for us in the past. I really, really hate it when our government breaks valid promises.
"Why're you arguin' what's already been decided?"
Mal to Jayne, "Jaynestown"
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Where's your proof?
Originally posted by citizen:
*Checks* I'm not wearing flares
*ears perk up*
Is that Donna Summer I hear in the background, Citizen?
I think you have Dance Fever, my friend
That Seventies Chrisisall
(Okay, wrong end of the seventies; I should be talkin' Stairway To Heaven, heh heh)
FREEBIRD!
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Some rock band will go to the top of the charts with a song about the last helo out of Baghdad...
" Fighting them at their own game
Murder for freedom the stab in the back
Women and children and cowards attack
Run to the hills run for your lives "
http://www.darklyrics.com/lyrics/ironmaiden/liveafterdeath.html#12
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Gino man, long time no wave!
Good to hear from ya!
Greeting old friends off-topic Chrisisall
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Originally posted by RocketJock:
the Bush Administration has drawn us into a morass with no easy exit. I'll admit, I can see no way out of the current situation quickly. I can only hope someone else, much wiser than I am, can see a path, and implement it.
saw a headline somewhere the other day--
" Pentagon Options- Go Big, Go Long , Go Home". They're making contingency plans for all 3. The McCain option, lots more troops; the Murtha option, bring the boys home now; and the Abazaid option( I guess he'd take credit for it, but can't think of anybody else who will, after the election), keep doin' what we're doin', only for many years.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
Iraq: out of control. More dead every week. No end in sight. America seems tired of it.
Are we gonna pull a Vietnam withdrawel?
What do ya think?
Well...
There is actually no comparison between what's going on now and what was going on in 1974. American involvement in the Vietnam War ended with the Paris peace accord of January 1973. I know. I was watching it on TV.
Nixon & Kissinger might've ended the war even sooner (as Nixon had always wanted to), but it was extremely difficult for them to approach the peacetable with an upper hand, when all the North Vietnamese had to do was turn on the news and see how unpopular the war was at home, to know that Nixon had no bargaining ships. Nixon always maintained (as does Kissinger to this day) that the anti-war effort at home did more to prolong that war than to shorten it. Any person with any knowledge of military history knows that the best position from which to pursue peace (or a truce) is from a position of strength, not weakness.
The anti-war effort (whether the war was justified or not) showed the enemy that we were a divided nation -- and a divided nation is not the hand one wants to take with them to the bargaining table.
I remember thinking at the time that it was too bad that LBJ didn't live to see the end of the war he had begun (as far as actual military hostilities). He died a few days before the peace accord. I also remember that the flag was already at half-mast when LBJ died, because Truman had died in December, less than a month prior to that.
A lot was going on back then. I was there. And it's not at all like what's going on today. Thankfully.
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