John Ritter's Death Turned into Reality TV?
POSTED BY: Succatash
UPDATED: Thursday, September 25, 2003 15:57
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Originally posted by Succatash:Quote:Excuse me? I am not misunderstanding anything, you are telling me old news. I disagree with you. John Ritter deserves better.
Originally posted by Tallgrrl:
I hope this clears up your misunderstanding.
Hey, John Ritter was an really wonderful dramatic actor who deserved better than to be in crap like "8 Rules...", but that's my NSHO.
"Take me, sir. Take me hard."
---TllGrrl
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Quote:I think your lesson is ridiculous.
Originally posted by Tallgrrl:
here is your lesson in TV:
Tallgrrl: "Here's a lesson for you. At night, it gets dark."
The reason this has a Reality TV feel to it, is because they are going to glorify how the cast is suffering. Cast members will take turns before each show to talk about their personal experience with John Ritter. To me, it seems like a celebration of death / reality tv bullshit.
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Originally posted by Succatash:Quote:I think your lesson is ridiculous.
Originally posted by Tallgrrl:
here is your lesson in TV:
Tallgrrl: "Here's a lesson for you. At night, it gets dark."
The reason this has a Reality TV feel to it, is because they are going to glorify how the cast is suffering. Cast members will take turns before each show to talk about their personal experience with John Ritter. To me, it seems like a celebration of death / reality tv bullshit.
Here's a follow-up lesson for you: "In the daytime, the sun shines and it's no longer dark."
Here's some "light" for ya:
There is NO COERSION happening here. (Like in "reality TV".)
There are NO HIDDEN CAMERAS. (Like in "reality TV".
There are NO STUPID STUNTS. (Like in "reality TV".
There is NO ONE COMPETING FOR A PRIZE.(Like in...well, you know.)
Therefore, no one's "suffering" is being "glorified".
What is it, exactly, don't you get?
For crying out loud. A well-liked star of a TV show, in the middle of a very successful comeback, suddenly takes ill on the set...and dies. And it's not a dramatic show...it's a SITCOM.
Excuse me, but from what I've been told, the shows that will have the cast members talk about Ritter are the remaining episodes filmed that have Ritter IN THEM.
These are the last episodes Ritter did. OF COURSE the cast members are going to talk about the guy before the episodes are aired.
This is NOT reality TV, dear heart. It's not a 'celebration of death'. Sheesh.
Being that the show is a sitcom, without these intros and tributes, there are people who would probably think it jarring and even crass to even show the episodes at all. The interviews are a psychological "cushion" for the viewers, who are about to watch the final episodes of this show that John Ritter appeared in.
OK?
Now...the last thing you need to understand is that you don't have to watch this shit. I'm not watching it because I wasn't a fan of the show. But I (unlike some people) understand why they're doing what they're going to do.
"Take me, sir. Take me hard."
---TllGrrl
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Excuse me, but this thread is subjective, hence the question mark in the title. Your lessons are ridiculous, but this thread is not. Good issues have been raised, and it's ultimately a matter of personal opinion.
Truth is, no one on this board has probably seen the show, lol.
In any case, I look forward to your next lesson. I've been wondering for years what happens to caterpillars.
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I had no problem with cast-members talking before the show, if it's done tastefully. I do have a slight problem with the fact that they are planning on continuing with the sitcom with the dad's (Ritter's) death written into the plot. That seems a bit crass to me.
I understand about people needing to keep their jobs and all, but this show is not going to make it without Ritter anyway, so they should just end it, and not give into the stockholders of the show, who only want to reap money by having Ritter's death played out on their show.
If those people actually cared one whit about John Ritter, they wouldn't take his memory and reduce it to a spectacle... which I sadly feel the episode showing his death will be. They should not be trying to play on my love for John Ritter. I feel they are. It's not right.
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Who's winning?
I can't really tell, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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Originally posted by Succatash:
Excuse me, but this thread is subjective, hence the question mark in the title. Your lessons are ridiculous, but this thread is not. Good issues have been raised, and it's ultimately a matter of personal opinion.
Truth is, no one on this board has probably seen the show, lol.
In any case, I look forward to your next lesson. I've been wondering for years what happens to caterpillars.
First of all, Succatash, the "lessons" thing wasn't started by yours truly. That was started with that quote about the dark.
My "lesson" was about how things work in Television. You think I'm lyin'? Then ask Joss Whedon about the Cold Hard Facts. If anyone can give you a chilling lesson about how things are he sure can.
Second, caterpillars ( www.caterpillars.org) turn into butterflies or moths, depending. (Missed a day back in elementary school, eh?
)And as I stated, I am also not a viewer of "8 Rules" or any of the other stuff that's on the ABC/Disney schedule.
But my post was merely an attempt to give some insight and clarification to the person who seemed to think that the actor's interview/tributes was "reality TV". (Which it is not.)
This person seemed to be concerned that the cast members's suffering was being exploited.
In TV, it's the audiences emotions that are played on....not the employees (the actors).
And I was trying to give some insight as to why the decision was made not to kill Ritter's show too quickly.
Anyway, bottom line (no pun intended) is that the viewers will ultimately determine the fate of that show. If for whatever reason, people stop watching "8 Rules", it will be yanked, and another formulaic sitcom will take its place as quickly as possible so as not to lose revenue. (There are a number of sitcoms that didn't make the cut this season, so there are quite a few 'in the can' ready to be plugged into the schedule.)
And as far as the network is concerned, if Ritter's show peters out, the new replacement will hopefully it will be a hit, will bring in lots of money...and its main star won't have to be replaced.
So...that's it.
No hating was implied. Just shedding a little "light".
If ya learned something ya didn't already know, then it's all good, ain't not?
Don't hate the messenger. Hate the stinkin' networks!!!
(FYI: By the way, I have to admit...I work in the Industry and "8 Rules" was one of 5 pilots I saw before they aired. Of the 10 minutes I saw, I didn't think it was funny...but Ritter made it somewhat appealing.)
Peace
"Take me, sir. Take me hard."
---TllGrrl
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SomeGirl wrote: "But my post was merely an attempt to give some insight and clarification to the person who seemed to think that the actor's interview/tributes was "reality TV". (Which it is not.)"
I mentioned a reference to Reality TV, which it is. You are wrong.
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LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!
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Who's winning?
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Originally posted by ManiacNumberOne:
Place yer bets! Place yer bets! Our next fight in the ring will be Succatash versus Tallgirl. This will be a 12 round fight. If your opponent gets knocked down, go to your corner and wait till I tell you to come out.
LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!!
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Who's winning?
I can't really tell, they don't seem to be playing by any civilized rules that I know.
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My bet goes to tallgirl. Watch out Tallgirl goes in my expeirence Sauccatash can fight dirty
She understands, she doesn't comprehend
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This thread is turning into a bigger insult to John Ritter than "8 Simple Rules."
I don't care who disagrees with me, and I don't intend to spend any further energy on this subject. I think it is VERY likely that the success of Reality TV was a factor in their decision to "play out the situation as real life."
The thing that bothers me about TallGirl is not her opinion but the way she assumes my opinion is a misunderstanding. Her "lessons" are stupid and uninformative.
She has a flair for the obvious which is irrelevant when it comes to personal opinion.
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