What do YOU want the Dems to do?
POSTED BY: SignyM
UPDATED: Thursday, November 16, 2006 01:18
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..Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
Speaking as a European, it still surprises me just how conservative America is. I mean, when I was a kid I saw you guys as the country of progression, leading the way for others to follow. It was a bit of a shock finding out that in a lot of areas you're actually way behind us!
I had another surprise last night when I found out you just elected your first Muslim congressman. I mean, even Ireland has elected Muslims before now! Okay, the first Muslim TD was elected in the early 90's, but we're Ireland and we still got there before you guys!..
actually America is not as conservative as most some would like for you to think, America is mostly a middle of the road country, it not far to left and its not far to the right, what you have to understand is that for the past 7 years we've had major voter fraud going on in the country, that was masterminded by Rep's in the current administration Bush and Co. actually Gore won the 2000, election and if there had not been wide spead cheating none of the things happening now would have gone on. Kerry as patheic as he was was also elected in 2004 but because of the cheating he didn't win, not to mention all of the congressional and Senate elections that were also fraudulant.
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Originally posted by rue:
OK - this is a contribution from a friend. The democrats should investigate Bush till he looks like a rotted corpse. But they shouldn't impeach him. They should leave him hanging in the WH for the next two years for all to see.
It's possible he could be impeached without being removed. It would amount to an uber-censure, a political punishment rather than a legal one. While part of me likes the idea, even if only as revenge for Clinton and that whole circus, it might send the wrong message, i.e., "you did all the crap we accused you of, but we'll be nice and let you stick around anyway cause we're all just playing gotcha in prep for '08."
Tried for war crimes and thrown in prison would be prefereable, but I just don't think that will happen.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:Tell me about it.
Originally posted by DesktopHippie:
it still surprises me just how conservative America is.
In a Strange Land Chrisisall
On your view, what is bad about being conservative? As I understand it conservative is about preservation of a way of life, which prima facie doesn't sound so bad. So what about conservatism has you upset, Chris?
Honestlywantingtoknowisall (to borrow a page from your play book)
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:You just hate __________!
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
I would like to see the Dem's prove themselves to be fallible just like the GOP. Then we can see how fervent their supporters are in this forum.
_________-basher!!
Joke aside, you WANT the Dems to f**k up as badly? Just for partisan satisfaction?
Why do you hate America?
Patriot Chrisisall
Actually, I'm quite curious to see what will happen when the rubber meets the road. We all know (or at least, I hope we do) that it's way easier to criticize and Monday-morning-quarterback than it is to actually be proactive. I don't want the Dems to govern badly--I just want people to be realistic. My soapbox is getting pretty worn at this point, but it can't be as simple as Republicans=pure-evil and Democrats=Jesus.
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Originally posted by chrisisall:Quote:I'm not gonna defend shit. I wanna see something from them, or I'll be right there takin' my shots. I don't care who's in office, I just wanna see a certain lack-of-needless-death attributed to our fearless leaders.
Originally posted by BigDamnNobody:
Now Auraptor and Hero get to pick apart the Dem's policies and Rue, SignyM, Righteous, Soupcatcher, and yourself among other's, can lead the D - fence.
We can bicker about taxes and education till judgement day, but LIFE, the lives of our troops, of the innocents, that's MY priority. That won't wait, and can't be fixed or replaced. If they have no answers for Iraq, they're as useless as the Neo-Con trash in there now.
I'm obviously hoping for better.
Take out the trash Chrisisall
Sorry for the rapid-fire posts (I just saw this thread). But I just wanted to take this moment to say that this type of post is why I'm such a huge fan of Chris. Well done!
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Quote:I grew up seeing America as progressive, sort of Liberal, but with Conservative restraints.
Originally posted by Causal:
On your view, what is bad about being conservative? As I understand it conservative is about preservation of a way of life, which prima facie doesn't sound so bad. So what about conservatism has you upset, Chris?
Get too liberal OR too conservative, and things go wacky. And America has gone too conservative in the last 20 years, but not a 'good' conservative, a radical conservative. Kind of opposite the road that leads to a 'Demolition Man' world. But it's swingin' back- just hope not too far in the OTHER direction, or China will take us over, heh heh.
My take anyway Chrisisall
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Excellent list Eric. Can I just add do away with the useless No Child Left Behind crap and implement something that will actually work and bring American education up to where it should be.
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Well as far as I can see if we take American politics by the standards of other nations you've got the Far Right and the Right with Moderates left of the Democrates.
Our Right wing are anti guns and pro national health service if that helps any to illustrate my point.
More insane ramblings by the people who brought you beeeer milkshakes!
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id just like for the Dems to be something other than the smoke and mirrors, good cop/bad cop partner of the republicans and the globalist monopoly that controlls our political processes; otherwise the Democrats are just as dangerous as the neocon republican majority was, if not more so..since we've now been given the illusion that that the deck has been re-stacked... meanwhile the same fraudulant war on terror is being waged against American citizens. hopefully some of the true conservatives and moderates will wake up from their partisan brain draining and realize that the agenda doesnt change just cause you replace a R with a D; the central banks are still pushing the same global government agenda, regardless of which puppet is placed on the throne(s).
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Originally posted by antimason:
id just like for the Dems to be something other than the smoke and mirrors, good cop/bad cop partner of the republicans and the globalist monopoly that controlls our political processes; otherwise the Democrats are just as dangerous as the neocon republican majority was, if not more so..since we've now been given the illusion that that the deck has been re-stacked... meanwhile the same fraudulant war on terror is being waged against American citizens. hopefully some of the true conservatives and moderates will wake up from their partisan brain draining and realize that the agenda doesnt change just cause you replace a R with a D; the central banks are still pushing the same global government agenda, regardless of which puppet is placed on the throne(s).
Ummmm OK


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