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How stupid are people??

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UPDATED: Saturday, November 4, 2006 17:45
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Saturday, November 4, 2006 3:46 AM

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You don't get the difference between "to Americans there is " and "really the overwhelming attitude that comes across is that to Americans there"? The sentances, intent and meaning are entirely different.


No, because they both express the sentiment that Americans are ignorant to the rest of the world, and either way you say it, it's your opinion, whether or not you put the buffer "The overwhleming attitude" before the statement. But like I said, I'm open to the possability of me misinterperating it. So sorry if that's the case.

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Not by me, I remember you brought up footbal hooligans. I responded to what appeared to be an accusation that I was saying "the UK is better than the US" which was neither my intent nor my actions as far as I can see. I merely voiced that I never said such a thing because I do not know why FMF was telling me otherwise.


I think she was saying it to everybody. But again, I could be wrong. I just think you took it a little too much like an accusation.

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While we're on the subject why do you bring me to task for saying all Americans are ignorant, when my words were that the attitude appears to come accross that America doesn't care about the outside world so much, but praise FMF when she outright says it?


Because you refered to "America" as a whole. She made a reference to certain Americans, and was speaking more in a "If it's true that they're ignorant, then this is why" sense. Your first response to me was done with the attitude that you should tell me off with facts about how America fucks everyone else over, even though I was just making a slapstick comment to someone who said Canadians dislike us.

As to the "Pot. Kettle. Black.", well, re-read that last sentence. I wasn't the one who took issue with a freggin joke.

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Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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RUE
Saturday, November 4, 2006 3:54 AM

"But generally, no, I don't have a whole lot of shame."[IMG]
Ohhhkaayyy ....
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Saturday, November 4, 2006 3:55 AM

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Originally posted by ChrisMoorhead:
No, because they both express the sentiment that Americans are ignorant to the rest of the world, and either way you say it, it's your opinion, whether or not you put the buffer "The overwhleming attitude" before the statement. But like I said, I'm open to the possability of me misinterperating it. So sorry if that's the case.

The intent of the two sentances are entirely different, that's just the way it is. The "buffer" as you put it as if it's meaningless changes the entire dynamic of the sentance. One is a statement of what Americans ARE, the other is a statement about how they come across. Saying they're the same is like saying black is white.
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I think she was saying it to everybody. But again, I could be wrong.
It appeared in a post responding to me with my name addressed at the top, I think I can be forgiven for being that 'egocentric' that I assumed it was directed toward me.
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As to the "Pot. Kettle. Black.", well, re-read that last sentence. I wasn't the one who took issue with a freggin joke.
No, you're the one who started the thread "what's so bad about tough guys?" You're the one who had a vast number of people on this site up in arms over your comments and assumed it was somehow their fault.

But I get it, you can insinuate that the entire world is nothing more than snivelling America haters and it's a funny joke. I make one comment about the attitude you export, in part through your elected representatives and thats a terrible bigoted thing to say. I guess that's what we call double standards.

Oh and how, exactly in a medium where there is none of the normal tells of intent, such as how something is said, body language and so on was I supposed to know it was a joke? Crystal ball?



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Saturday, November 4, 2006 4:03 AM

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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
How about this one ?


http://by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?&msg=7D23B44B-097
2-48C6-B843-1D01BF4B1BD4&start=0&len=760396&curmbox=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&a=8bbfa80a8d3183c0b0cbdf77d0227593ea9b9d8d981f5c379b9545ebfddc1a80&mimepart=12
can find my way to the msn login on my own, thanks all the same...



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Saturday, November 4, 2006 4:10 AM

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Originally posted by citizen:
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Originally posted by GinoBiffaroni:
How about this one ?


http://by122fd.bay122.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg?&msg=7D23B44B-097
2-48C6-B843-1D01BF4B1BD4&start=0&len=760396&curmbox=00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000001&a=8bbfa80a8d3183c0b0cbdf77d0227593ea9b9d8d981f5c379b9545ebfddc1a80&mimepart=12
can find my way to the msn login on my own, thanks all the same...



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Sorry, when I hit the link it goes to a bumper sticker

A picture of Bush with his idiot smile and next to it " George doesn't work here "

and underneath, " Canada : America done right "

I thought it funny

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Saturday, November 4, 2006 4:13 AM

What was I just saying about people going out of their way to find conflict? I mean, I asked you to say what was on your mind and all (although I thought it would be more along the lines of 'your dick's hanging out') but really, is that the type of opinion you form of a total stranger from seeing one photograph?

Maybe you're not familiar with most art we have representing the Celts of ancient Scotland. They were a very proud, boastful people. They also dressed in what looks to many people like pajamas. I don't know where the axle grease comment came from... I'm not oiled down in the picture (but I could get some pics of that if you'd like ). And the dustbin lid is a foam shield... yeah, not too much better, but a required part of a full-contact dark-age combat game I play. If you think that looks ridiculous, it's a good thing you can't see the foam sword in my right hand that I cropped out.

But going back to my chosen pose, I try and reflect the culture I'm representing when I pose for these photographs. As you can see here:

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Where I'm playing an aloof Sohei, or here:

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Where I'm playing a shugyosha.

I'll also not that I used the following signatures for a time:

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But changed them because other people took issue with them. Well, frankly, I'm tired of doing that. It seems like no matter what I do or say, people take issue with it, and I'm not going to cater to their fragile damn sensibilities anymore. I apologize for causing you pain, but you're just going to have to deal with it.

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Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkyries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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Saturday, November 4, 2006 4:19 AM

As I said in my first response to you, I was agreeing more with the "world hates us" thing than the "Sniveling" comment. I know it's been a long debate, but if you scroll up, you can see, my very first response to you, says exactly that.

I was trying to avoid issue with you right from the start.

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Oh and how, exactly in a medium where there is none of the normal tells of intent, such as how something is said, body language and so on was I supposed to know it was a joke? Crystal ball?


Again, read my first response to you. I outright told you what I meant. If telling you outright doesn't work, then I'm at a loss as to what else to do.

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Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkiries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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RUE
Saturday, November 4, 2006 4:25 AM

Hey, I took you at your word. I thought I made it plain what I'd say would be negative. And you pretty much said - go ahead. But I've deleted my comments.

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Saturday, November 4, 2006 4:34 AM

You didn't have to delete them. Like I said in my opening line, I know I asked you. My astonishment was not that you made the comment, but rather that you would assess someone you didn't know so negatively because of a single picture. Whether or not you typed it, that's just... well, it's not right.

Anyways, not looking to draw this out, just wanted to say again (as I so often am forced to do with everyone) that I wasn't looking to suppress what you said, although I do hope I managed to change your opinion about me.

Oh, and out of legitimate curiosity, what were you referring to as being axle grease? Like I said, my body wasn't greased, so I'm thinking maybe you mistook the cut on my face for a long smear of it?

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Place my body on a ship and burn it on the sea,
Let my spirit rise, Valkiries carry me.
Take me to Valhalla where my brothers wait for me.
Fires burn into the sky, my spirit will never die.

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