I will not wear Firefly as if it were a Nike symbol on my chest.
POSTED BY: 6ixStringJack
UPDATED: Wednesday, November 1, 2006 22:15
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While I don't disagree with you on most particular points, I WILL buy licensed products as a browncoat. Not because I'm a Universal/FOX loving consumer, but because I believe in the Firefly 'Verse and want to see more of it. Frankly, I think it's silly to think boycotting Universal will bring about anything but the DEATH of Firefly/Serenity.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
FUTUREMRSFILLION: Ah, yes... the dangers of brining up Nazism in any debate. Such a touchy subject for most that the entire point of the argument can so easily be lost, misquoted, or misdirected.
As I have said before, I do not believe that I used that example in a careless or unscrupulous manner. I am not an anarchist. I believe there are many laws which have been created which are of great benefit to society. That being said, it would be foolish for I, or anyone else for that matter, to believe that every single law that has ever been created was established with the sole intention of protecting and benefiting mankind as a whole. The fact is, it's the rich that make the laws the poor must abide by. To infer from my writing that I believe that anybody who obeys a law is a Nazi is complete hogwash and I implore you to read what I have written again with a receptive mind and truly see where I was making the parallel.
I would not be foolish enough to bring up Nazism in a debate about the validity and necessity of copyright, if that is all we were discussing in itself. If this were the case, then you and DAMIENWOLFE would be well within your rights to label me a lunatic or accuse me of bad form. I would do the same for anyone else who would carelessly toss around the holocaust as if the holocaust happened only for the benefit of simpletons who cannot prove their point in any other matter.
It is a long thread and I will concede that it may have been easy to miss where this was truly directed, so I will take the time to explain my train of thought here:
I am perfectly capable of reading and read your post in its entirety. What you do not understand is that attempting to compare ANYTHING to the Halocaust belittles it. Period.
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I thank you for your opinions, but in this particular instance, I strongly disagree. If you have anything else of value to add to this thread, please do not hesitate to do so.
"A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Browncoats will buy Universal made apparel. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. The way that they're shutting down lots of fan run websites, well, you could argue for and against that. But the fact of the matter is, it's illegal what the fan sites are doing. That doesn't mean it's any less important, and that doesn't mean that it's any less awesome, but it's still illegal. So, whether or not they have the right to do what they're doing isn't the issue. It sucks, yes, I agree with that wholeheartedly. Also, I think that it's dangerous to try to get into Joss Whedon's mind and try to assume what you think he would or wouldn't want or not want. Unless the man comes out saying something, doesn't mean one thing or another. Maybe he agrees completely with what Universal's doing, maybe he doesn't but is worried about an eminent sequel. Maybe is doesn't agree, but just doesn't think it's his place. It's not our place to assign motives to him. At least we should wait for some kind of word on that front. Which brings me back to my original point. You're not going to buy any Univeral stuff, that's totally fine. But I want Universal to know that there are Browncoats who are out there and there are people who are interested in the franchise. If it takes a little whoring to get a sequel, so be it.
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Originally posted by 6ixStringJack:
I won't go to deep into a history lesson here, but may I submit a few quotes from Thomas Jefferson and my favorite quote from Benjamin Franklin which may enlighten you and help illustrate my point at the same time:
Gee thanks for "enlightening me" I guess I didn't have to waste all those years studying History and Politics, I could have just waited for you.
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I respect your stance on this GREENFAERIE & TERRY. Kill em with kindness. Looks like a lot of Browncoats are going that way. Nothing says that all Browncoats have to act uniformley.
I'm going to take the other road and spread the word about Universal's actions beyond the fan bases. It's already happening. I'd like to see this issue frontpage news someday soon. I think the public as a whole diserves to see how powerful we've let these corporations become and how they throw their weight about with no consideration for the little guy. And do remember that Universal came to us as a friend, invited us to use images to promote the movie in any way possible and then turned on us.
I don't think my actions and the actions that others who think like I do will do anything to hurt the possibilities of a new movie. It would surely get their attention, and probably bring in thousands of new fans if the story got big enough. I'm hoping for a new BDM, but I'd be even happier if we buried the frackers. Somebody else would be more than happy to make a new BDM after all the publicity that would ensue. All press is good press. You do it your way... I'll do it my way, but in the end, we're all doing it as Browncoats.
FUTUREMRSFILLION: This thread, and probably me in particular, obviously gets deep under your skin. Why do you continue to suject yourself to such abuse? "A government is a body of people, usually notably ungoverned." http://www.myspace.com/6ixstringjack
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Originally posted by ecgordon:
That's my question too. Your post was so short and didn't really say anything, am I wrong to try to figure out what you did mean?
Actually, somewhat, yes: you could have just asked instead of coming to your own conclusions when you admit that I didn't give enough info for you to figure out what I meant.
What I did imply is what I do. Which also implying what you could (not should) do i.e. I provided an option that may have not been considered.
I still believe that I gave enough info to come the above conclusion though. Bah, no matter. Life continues
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