Did Book know the Miranda secret?

POSTED BY: DonCoat
UPDATED: Wednesday, October 4, 2006 00:50
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CITIZEN

Monday, October 2, 2006 10:33 PM

I don't think Miranda happened more than a year before the U war, probably a few months. In either event the people who knew about Miranda and are still alive seems pretty limited to parliment members, and I don't think Book as one of those.

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STINKINGROSE

Monday, October 2, 2006 11:13 PM

Just to add gas to the whole timeline thingy...
I'd swear I heard Mal say Reavers had been around about 12 years.
Could have misheard that.

Reavers would provide an excellent cautionary tale for those considering pushing out even farther into the black.

Also good to scare children into better behavior for those not in close proximity to the actual entity.
"Eat your spinach or the Reavers will get you."

Word of Reavers would be spreading at the folk level (word of mouth) and you all know how quickly urban legends can travel, especially if there's a shred of truth to the story that lends good or even semi plausible detail.

DONCOAT

Monday, October 2, 2006 11:31 PM

Maybe you're thinking of Jayne. In the "eating people alive... where's that get fun?" scene he says that the Reavers have been around for the last ten years.

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DOCTROID

Tuesday, October 3, 2006 12:41 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by DonCoat:
The Miranda disaster took place a good ten years before the BDM, before the Unification War.

Well, it was six years from the end of the war to the beginning of the BDS. The BDM was some months later, and the start of the war was presumably several years earlier. So Miranda could have been during the war, not before it. Not that that matters to the present discussion, of course.

PHOENIXROSE

Tuesday, October 3, 2006 6:44 AM

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Originally posted by marina:
Book: River...
Mal (to the others): Come on!
Book: I don't care what you believe, just believe whatever she -dies-...

That's what I always heard.

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MARINA

Tuesday, October 3, 2006 3:30 PM

Oh thank goodness I'm not the only one. I can't tell you how many times I replayed that scene struggling to hear what it was "supposed" to be.

I'm very smart.

MOOSE

Tuesday, October 3, 2006 11:09 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Just to add gas to the whole timeline thingy...
I'd swear I heard Mal say Reavers had been around about 12 years.
Could have misheard that.
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Mal said that the report was 12 years old.

SHROUDED

Tuesday, October 3, 2006 11:14 PM

Okay, that forced me to re-watch the scene, and I distinctly heard, "I don't care what you believe -- just believe it. Whatever she--"

And y'know, this brings around a new speculation I haven't seen up here yet -- perhaps Book was one of the "key members of Parliament" River gleaned the Miranda information from? If the line above if really what Book says, perhaps THAT'S the reason he knew? And maybe that's why he stuck around on Serenity so long -- but I dunno. It's all speculation, and I personally like the idea of Book going into the monastery because of Miranda.

Just willin' to throw out new ideas is all.

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SHROUDED

Tuesday, October 3, 2006 11:16 PM

Quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
Quote:
Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Just to add gas to the whole timeline thingy...
I'd swear I heard Mal say Reavers had been around about 12 years.
Could have misheard that.
.

Mal said that the report was 12 years old.

Which means that reavers have been around for at least 12 years.

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The only animals I'm not comfortable with are parrots, but I'm learning as I go. I'm getting better and better at 'em. I really am. - Steve Irwin, our Honorary BDH

DONCOAT

Wednesday, October 4, 2006 12:15 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by Shrouded:
Quote:
Originally posted by Moose:
Quote:
Originally posted by stinkingrose:
Just to add gas to the whole timeline thingy...
I'd swear I heard Mal say Reavers had been around about 12 years.
Could have misheard that.
.

Mal said that the report was 12 years old.

Which means that reavers have been around for at least 12 years.

Which means Miranda was settled before that -- probably at least a couple of years before. So we know that by the time of the BDM, Kaylee was probably at least 24 years old. (Point of interest.)

Anyhow, plenty of time for Book to do his time in the abbey, whether you think he went in after Miranda or after the U-War.

Okay, to get back to the original idea... what if Book was the guy in a policy-making role who actually devised the two-level disinformation strategy? The guy who wrote the official denials while starting the "space-crazy" theory via rumors and cortex blogs (or equivalent)? I'm seeing him in a kind of Karl Rove-ish role.

Hey, it may not be anywhere near what Joss had in mind, but it's pretty slick.

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