Free Speech...unless you attack Democrats
POSTED BY: Hero
UPDATED: Sunday, September 10, 2006 16:20
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Originally posted by Righteous9:
And somebody make clear for me where the hypocracy is in the Dem party again? Cuz I'm not following it.
I agree. The Democrats have always had the position that Free Speech isn't for everyone. I seem to recall during the mid-'90s a piece of legislation known by many as the "Hush Rush" Bill to force radio and TV stations to limit Rush Limbaugh's speech rights because he was critical of the President. President Clinton...just like ABC...hmmm...
No hypocracy here. Double standards, bias, lies, prejudice, censorship...but not an ounce of hypocracy.
H
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Originally posted by SoupCatcher:
I don't buy your claim that the main motivation was that Reagan was sick and couldn't defend himself.
That was not the main motivation of the political attacks on the program. My point was that the more generalized disapproval voiced by average Americans, especially older folk, was because they seemed to be taking advantage of his age and infirmaty. That don't sit well with most people, regardless of how sympathetic they are with the target.
Its like prosecuting an old person for bad driving. Its an ugly job and even though I love jailing people for all manner of things, I love this slightly less (although seeing a Grandma in handcuffs is its own reward for my less then excessive hours and reasonable pay).
H
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Originally posted by Hero:
That was not the main motivation of the political attacks on the program. My point was that the more generalized disapproval voiced by average Americans, especially older folk, was because they seemed to be taking advantage of his age and infirmaty. That don't sit well with most people, regardless of how sympathetic they are with the target.
You're now saying that it was not the main motivation, and yet you stated it as if it was.
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Originally posted by Hero:
The Reagan was pulled because a few million average people didn't think it was right to show that movie when he was so sick he could not defend himself.
I've posted a link to quotes supporting my claim. Where's the supporting evidence for your claim?
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FellowTraveler,
I'm not sure I buy this theory. The movie was screened to hundreds of right-wing pundits who gave glowing reviews. Any change to the movie would result in a firestorm of protest from this group which ABC is courting to help with the publicity.
More generally, there is a difference in my mind between a movie that is shown in theaters, where people have to pay money, and a movie shown on broadcast television. Broadcasters have a responsibility for what they provide free. Especially when ABC worked with Scholastic to provide fact sheets for students that contain historical inaccuracies. Especially when ABC sent out letters to a hundred thousand teachers to guide in the use of this film as a teaching moment. Especially when ABC is planning to run the movie without commercials to minimize the impact of an advertising boycott. Especially when the movie is advertised as being based on official reports when members of the official commission disagree. Especially when ABC releases screenings of the movie to people based on their ideology and reassures those idealogues that the final version will not have changes that would disappoint them.
Republicans have a long history of using 9/11 for partisan purposes. This is just the latest example.
On a side note, this movie is being advertised in Australia as "The Official True Story" with a fictional scene touted as, "how one decision changed our world."*
* I have not been able to personally confirm this account, my computer keeps locking up when I try to view the promo.
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Theres no end to the blame game, its a never ending circle jerk. Pre 9/11 the Clintons viewed the terror issue as an law enforcenemt problem. They blew it big time. Do I blame Hillary and Bill for 9/11 - No.
It's the dirty trick teams that both political parties employ and use to deceive the public - us. This time around Berger was the lead on the 9/11 dirty trick team. Sandy Berger stole and then destroyed archived documents that would embarrass the Clinton administration during the 9/11 commission hearings. He was convicted by a court of law for that crime.
Nixon, Carter and Reagan all had dirty trick teams and now the Clintons join the list.
Berger is the linch pin in all of this.
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Originally posted by AURaptor:
The Dems are simply scared of the rest of the world discovering the truth. This mini-series is based on the 9/11 Commission Report.
Except several members of the Commission say that scenes in the mini are false, or complete fabrications.
Or are you they type that thinks any movie "based on a true story" happened exactly like that.
And every movie adapted from a text follows the text to the letter....
"I thoroughly disapprove of duels. If a man should challenge me, I would take him kindly and forgivingly by the hand and lead him to a quiet place and kill him."
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Originally posted by Eric:
Funny. 9/11 Commissioner Richard Ben-Veniste called it 'very inaccurate and unfair,' and said it was full of "errors and mischaracterizations."
You might want to let people know that Richard Ben-Veniste has worked for the Clintons and has been hired, on many occasions, by the DNC.
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Originally posted by MalBadLatin:
Berger is the linch pin in all of this.
That's a pretty weak linchpin.
The funniest aspect of the Berger document shredding case was how utterly incompetent Berger was at his mission to destroy documents. According to the archives officials, he never had access to the originals, he was only working with (and stealing and cutting with scissors) copies. What a boob.
That's your linchpin?
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Originally posted by Storymark:
Except several members of the Commission say that scenes in the mini are false, or complete.
What members, names please.
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I don't get why your flaking for a convicted criminal. No one knows exactly what Berger stole.
EDIT BELOW:
I think Berger stole memos that had hand written notes contained on the margins, notes that would lead the commission in a direction that the Clinton admin. didn't want the inquiry to go.
EDIT AGAIN"
Will look at the history of those folks - thanks
I didnt mean to imply that 9/11 was Bergers fault, but to show that he is the G. Gordon Liddy of our time.
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