Jaynestown

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ASORTAFAIRYTALE

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 2:59 AM

Okay so I was watching this one again, and this part stood out: (I'm just copying from the script that I got from average-bear.com)

Quote:
STITCH
Hey there, Jayne. Thought I'd make ya
watch while I butcher me one a' your
boys.

Jayne looks down at Simon. He covers for him.

JAYNE
Ain't one a mine, Stitch...

I kinda thought this was weird because after all, Jayne has never really liked Simon, why should he be covering for him? Anyways, sorry if this has been discussed before, but it was just confusing me.

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PHOENIXROSE

Wednesday, August 30, 2006 3:39 AM

He never really liked him, but he didn't hate him enough to want to see him butchered. Plus Mal was there, and was not going to just stay out of it if Simon was going to be killed.
Jayne knew that he could handle Stitch, and also that the beef was really with him. sometimes, even Jayne has a code of honor.
And, really, he was being honest. Jayne wasn't the Captain, Simon wasn't one of his.

Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. - Gautama Siddharta

TRAVELER

Thursday, August 31, 2006 11:18 PM

I notice Jayne does have code. He seems to protect people who are are in need, at times. When he wanted to trade Vera for Saffron, he was sincere in his feelings about her. I don't completely understand his code. But it does surface from time to time. "Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda", that is Jayne.

Traveler

CANTER

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 7:39 PM

I think Jayne is a hero, deep deep deep down, and sometimes it surfaces.

Jayne might not like Simon or River, but at that stage (in Jaynestown) they were in essence part of his crew.

I also believe that the only reason he turned traitor in Ariel, was because he lost his temper. He got pushed, and pushed back. (After getting stabbed a bit)

Burn the land and boil the sea...

PURPLEBELLY

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 8:00 PM

Jayne is just trying to wrong-foot Stitch. Any doubt placed in Stitch's mind might make him hesitate in the action to come. That the subject is Simon is irrelevant. Jayne, as always, is thinking of Jayne.

HUGHFF

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 9:34 PM

Chicken and egg. Would Jayne have sold out River if she hadn't slashed him? Would she have cut him up if she hadn't known he was about to turn her in?

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MINIME

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:01 PM

It didn't cost Jayne anything to make deny that Simon was one of 'his' - if it had, say, come down to a choice between Stitch going after Jayne and going after Simon, it may have been a different story.
Also, I've always kind of seen it as Jayne's way of saying to Simon - you're not one of us, and if I had my way you never would be.
In the nicest possible Jayne way, of course.

Minime

STEVESHURTLEFF

Tuesday, October 24, 2006 11:16 PM

Defending/covering for Simon would have been much easier to understand if it had happened after Ariel rather than before, since with Mal present, Jayne wouldn't have dared turn on Simon (again) at that point.

But, since it was before, it does show that he has some honor, and maybe even a sliver of selflessness.

Or perhaps he just wanted to fight Stitch.

Like Inara said, NOBODY is comfortable with knowing what Jayne is thinking.

TRAVELER

Thursday, October 26, 2006 12:42 AM

You have a good point PurpleBelly. Stitch had to put some time into rehashing Simon. Maybe only a moment, but a moment is all Jayne needs. I still think Jayne has a code, but what that is entirely, I'm not sure. Some people have brought up the fact that Jayne may have helped Dobson escape in the first episode. But I'm inclined to believe him when he tells Mal the money wasn't good enough. So if the money had been good enough? So Jayne admits he would trade sides for the right price.

I have noticed Jayne has a good side. He teases Kaylee at the dinner table, but I don't think he understands he has gone to far until Mal tells him to leave the table. And even though he chases women, I noticed in "Heart of Gold" he stayed with one woman and treated her with respect.

So I feel Jayne learned his morality on the street. A bad street. During his time on Serenity he developes. As I have said before, it may take a wrench to his skull, he does progress.

Thanks for letting me ramble again. I thought this thread was dead. And here I get a notice of a reply after a couple of months.

So I think PurpleBelly is correct about Jayne not being all that concerned about Simon as he is about finding away to get to Stitch.

Traveler

PHOENIXROSE

Thursday, October 26, 2006 11:03 AM

Quote:
Originally posted by hughff:
Chicken and egg. Would Jayne have sold out River if she hadn't slashed him? Would she have cut him up if she hadn't known he was about to turn her in?

She cut his shirt, and the Blue Sun logo on it. He just happened to be under the sirt, so he got a little stabbed. She wasn't going after Jayne, she was going after Blue Sun (He looks better in red).

We will not go quietly into the night
We will not give in without a Big Damn Fight
We are Browncoats, and we know we are right
We will rage, rage against the dying of our engine light!

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