Male and Female Imponderables--Back in the Saddle
POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:52
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Wow. I dunno what to say, that's exactly the answer I didn't want, but I do know exactly why you said it, and reading my post I did ask for it.
I hate this concept that because of my precise age, I am less human, my feelings have less meaning, I'm not me. I know that isn't what you guys mean, but I draw that conclusion. You guys might just be correct, but I guess I don't have to like it.
Ugh. No, if you guys are wondering, I'm not glowingly positive very often. Sorry. But as I was saying above, the fact that you guys let me rant negatively all the time, well that's part of why I'm here. 
"But, these strong women characters?"
"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon.
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Quote:Actually, I think it means you're more "human" than you were five years ago. My two youngest siblings are 13 and 16, and the difference between them is remarkable. The older one is a person unto herself. She has all these thoughts and ideas going on, and I can hold a conversation with her like she's an adult. She's one of the coolest and most grounded people I know, which is a bit frightening considering she's 10 to 30 years younger than all the people I hang out with (my hubby is literally old enough to be her father).
I hate this concept that because of my precise age, I am less human, my feelings have less meaning, I'm not me.
But then there's the youngest, who just turned 13. He's a great kid, I love him to pieces, but he's still very much a *kid*. I can talk to him about the things he likes to talk about, but it's not a conversation on the same level as the conversations I can have with the other four of my siblings, or with other adults. I know some day in the next few years, I'm going to go over to my parents' place for Christmas or something, and all of a sudden there will be this *person* in my brother's body. He'll have ideas and opinions and an entire internal landscape that right now is still very much undeveloped (or hidden, I couldn't really say which).
Anyway, I guess my point is that when you're 16 or 17 (I'm guessing that's about how old you are, with all the talk of SAT and college and such), you're in a really weird place in life. By law, you aren't an adult, but mentally, you have a full-fledged adult mind and personality. Your hormones are also all over the place (hormones are always a good thing to blame -- believe me, I blame my hormones for wacky "fun" at least once a month), so in addition to feeling like an adult but not being allowed to act like an adult, your hormones often can't decide which emotion is up.
But most importantly, I don't want you to think that I'm talking down to you at all. I'm really not, and I'm sorry if it ever comes across like that. I think of you as an equal, as an adult with interesting ideas and stories, and as a fellow Browncoat. I have a lot of affection for teenagers, I think both because I'm the sort that never really grew up (I've mentioned my love of video games, right?), and because I went through a really dark time during my late teens, and I hate to see anyone else go through that. One of the bright points in those years was a teacher who I TA'd for who treated me like a fellow adult. That really meant a lot to me, and so as I get further and further away from my teenage years (the gorramn clock just won't stop ticking!), I try to remember what it felt like, the fear and the doubts, but also the feeling that I wished that everyone would just treat me like an adult rather than a child.
~CK
You can't take the sky from me...
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I appreciate that. Really. I'm sorry if I came across as pissed off, which I was, but not at you, just... at... you know, life and stuff.
It's just frustrating. I've got friends, I've got people who see me, who are happy to be close to me, all that stuff... that's what matters to me. And then I've got all this other crap, homework and classwork and colleges. I dunno.
There, confusion. That's something. That's me.
People are interesting. Homework sucks. Simple, but true.
"But, these strong women characters?"
"Why aren't you asking 100 other guys why they don't write strong women characters?" -Joss Whedon.
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Quote:
Originally posted by nvghostrider:
Can anyone else hear what someone is thinking?
Not neccessarily the details. Mostly thought patterns. On the way back from the movies the other night I could hear a rattling coming from GND's head. Kinda like a ball bearing or marble being thrown around a stone room. Asked what the rattling was, (literally). She became very tense and uneasy.
Seems I'd done this before. Caught a woman in thought and shook things up a bit. Feel kinda bad, but can one really read the thoughts of others?
And if so, is it possible to invade a person's privacy accidentally?
Like I said. Ponderifically confused.]
Hi NVG!
I have a spooky way of suddenly wondering something about a person without any hint that I might be on the right track and when they say something or I ask something that confirms what I was thinking I have a terrible habit of saying "I had wondered" like it was obvious but it really wasn't!
Does this make any sense at all?
Sorry have to keep reading and then I'll do a quick catch up!Magda x x
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I know what you mean NVG and Magda. Not that I'm saying I'm psychic or anything. Just intuitive about mood (comes from being really oversensitive to what other people think about me). It usually goes a bit like this.
"You're annoyed at me."
"No I'm not."
"Yes you are, I can tell."
"No, really I'm not."
"What have I done to upset you?"
"Nothing, honest."
"Are you sure, I could have sworn I picked up some bad vibes."
"You're being paranoid again. Everything's fine."
"Oh. Okay, I guess I'm being too insecure again..."
Pause
"Well, actually there is something that's been really bugging me for a while now...."
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Oh dear. Yes, I have that. I don't talk about it because people who don't know me think I'm insane, but y'all know me, so I guess I can talk about it.
I don't always know exactly what someone is feeling, but I tend to know where it's going to lead. Does that make sense? Just as a well-worn example, I knew, months before there were any real indicators, that Ex of Doom and I were, well, doomed. I did not know why, he seemed to be fine, I tried to talk to him about it a few times, he was fine. I tested the waters; yes, he wanted to live with me, yes he still thought I was the most wonderful thing to happen to him, etc. I basically fought tooth and nail to change what I vaguely saw coming, I even really thought I had succeeded until he just stopped talking to me (then I really knew something was wrong, but still could not and cannot tell exactly why) So I can guess feelings from the notions I get about what they will lead to, but I'm not always right about it. I sure wish it was less vague.
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. - Gautama Siddharta
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Sweetie, I feel for you. Quiet non-communicating types are the worst. It drives me crazy when I know something is wrong and people keep telling me I'm an insecure mess. I'm usually half way to believing them when everything falls apart (which I probably summed up in my last tirade!).
Why can't people just be honest about their feelings? It usually hurts less in the long run. I've had a 'friend' be nice to me for years before I finally wheedled out of her that she didn't feel very close to me and I often really annoyed her. Completely destroyed me. I mean if someone I regarded as a close friend didn't really like me all that much how can I ever feel confidence in a relationship with another person. I had been sure there was a problem but had been accused so many times of being paranoid that I was unprepared for the truth.
Sorry. Still a sore point and probably completely off topic. Still, I'd feel comforted if someone else out there could say that they too have nightmares where your best friends turn around and say that they hate you. Make me feel less disfunctional, please?!
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*Pat pat* Oddly enough, last year my relationship with my best friend fell apart. We had been drifting apart for awhile, but I had always done my best to hold it together and so had she. Until a few things happened. I won't say what they were because that's her business, but it all got tangled and suddenly I was the enemy. And I didn't even know it. I didn't know it for a year, until we had a huge blowout fight. I knew something was up, but didn't know it was that bad. It was over something I thought was completely stupid, and it had apparently been festering in her all that time.
And yes, I get nightmares. You think yours are bad, I dream of her driving me off a cliff in a burning car
Better than a thousand hollow words, is one word that brings peace. - Gautama Siddharta
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Morning, all!
Whitefall, I am sorry that you are having a rough time right now. I do know what you mean about rehearsing for a long time, and nothing coming of it...it used to irk me, too. 
The advice you got pretty much sums everything else up, though. Just know we're here to talk to and dish out advice and observations, but you will get the truth! 
Emma, you aren't completely alone on that. I have had it happen once or twice (not that dramatically, but close). It's why I am a proponent of not just communication, but understanding. We can talk each others' ears off and go away happy, but if neither one of us really got the message the other was trying to deliver, it turns into a viscious cycle.
:hug: All manner of things will be well.
Alright, coffee, and probably another thread to start the day off. I'll be back.
I love fast coffee machine! 
New thread:
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=23586
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