There is no continuity error with River's rescue.
POSTED BY: Adamwankenobi
UPDATED: Thursday, July 13, 2006 18:54
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What I don't understand:
If Simon snuck River out himself, why did she have to be put in cryo? Obviously a ship came for them. My first thought would be that they did it because the Alliance put out alerts on River, and she would be seen and turned in. But it only makes sense that there would be an alert on Simon, too (and later we see that there's a warrant out for him), and certainly a pair of sunglasses isn't a good enough disguise to fool anyone looking for him. Another thought would be that he was afraid of how River would act. But in the Academy she seems fine. Or, okay, not fine, but fine-ish; no worse off than she was once she got out of cryo. Simon had only a little time to observe her, but in that time he saw her speed, her physic abilities, and that awesome balancing on the ceiling thing. He also apparently gives her a lot of credit, as when the alarms go off he tells her to "Find out." (Correct me if I'm wrong on that.) If he thought that she was acting alright, why would he put her in cryo? I'm sure he thought she was safer awake, and even if he wasn't aware of her physical abilities, an awake girl can fight back better than a girl locked in a box.
More than that, are we supposed to believe that Simon let someone else put River in cryo? I wouldn't think that he would trust anyone that much, even the people who helped get River out. After all, they are "underground" people, who he heard about in Blackout Zones. Simon lived his whole life in an Alliance friendly, rule-abidding household. He's going to be suspicious of these guys.
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DB: Doesn't exactly fit the thug in the profile alley. Wait, what?
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wikipedia article aside, I have my issues. ( Pardon for the late reply )
Simon showing up at the facility to get River would have made even bigger felon, initially. His face would have been splattered all over the coretex. ( Never mind that he had been jailed once before, making his ability to waltz into said facility all the more unlikely ) However, had River been sprung by an 'insider' in like manner makes more sense in that she could have been 'asleep' at the time of the abduction and then easily put into cryo. This way, Simon would have a bit more leeway in getting away, and not immediatly seen as a suspect by the Alliance. Also, when River wakes up out of cryo, she doesn't have the recent memory of him freeing her, and is more shocked to see him.
Further, Simon seemed to be clueless of the 'neural stripping' that the good doctor talked about rigth before the escape. Simon's a doctor, and he should have picked up a great deal more of info w/ his brief time in the facility than was shown in the BDS. That's the whole point of Ariel, where he ...,what? DISCOVERS what they did to her. Unless Simon had bout of amnesia himself, what he found out shouldn't have been such a shock.
IMO, Simon doing the rescue himself is a flimsy adaptation for the big screen, but it doesn't completely destroy the continuity to the series.
I don't like it, it has too many holes, but it still floats. Barely.
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ormaybemidgets, what he starts to say to her is "find a hiding place." but she's way ahead of him, so all he gets out is "find a h-" and then watches in awe as she climbs a wall and hides on a ceiling.
The novel says she was put in cryo because the ship he had with him had a scan-proof hull and was also a single-seater. I'm not sure this makes absolute sense, but it comes the closest to making sense.
AURaptor, the mentioned "neural stipping" was not a lot of information; he wouldn't know exactly what was done. It might have been drugs, it might have been something else, or he might not have been thinking about it too much because he was so preoccupied with seeing his sister in such a state.
Thinking back to the pilot episode and Dobson's "I know what you did for your sister, it doesn't make you a killer." comment, it almost makes more sense that he was the one to break her out. The comment could almost be read as "I know you broke the law, snuck into a secure facility with fake clearance, and attacked several people there to get her out, but that doesn't make you a killer." I almost prefer it to read that way, rather than "You paid some people to break you sister out, and that doesn't make you a killer." That's more boring.
Not to say I think the continuity is unmarred; of course it isn't. Nor do I have a problem with nitpicking, I do that a lot. But when it comes to TV, movies, and books, I find it's better to find an explination that works and be forgiving rather than just saying "this is wrong this is wrong this is wrong" over and over. That gets old, believe me. Sometimes there isn't an explination to be had, and that always gets under my skin, but I have no problem viewing this as a very slight error. More like a typo than a major plot hole in my view.
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ormaybemidgets, what he starts to say to her is "find a hiding place."
Are you sure? It really sounds like "find out". Did you get that from the subtitles, or the novel? Or did you hear it somewhere?
Still, though, the fact that he's telling her to do something this important shows that he has at least a little confidence in her. If he thought she was completely screwed up mentally, I don't think he'd put that much in her hands.
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The novel says she was put in cryo because the ship he had with him had a scan-proof hull and was also a single-seater. I'm not sure this makes absolute sense, but it comes the closest to making sense.
I'm still not going to buy that. I'm not sure what they scan for, but certainly that they'd be scanning for Simon-who's on record for trying to help River; who they just got a thousand pictures of in the Academy, as I'm sure they have security cameras; who's her closest contact who actually wants her out-just as they'd be scanning for River. And single-seater? The ship only had one seat so he put his sister in cryo? I don't think so.
But all this said, it's not something I think about when I watch Serenity (pilot). When River comes out of the box, that's an amazing scene. And she seems kind of surprised to see Simon, which doesn't make complete sense but might, but that's okay. Because I love that part.
Edit: Wait. I'm not really sure I get what "scan-proof hull" means. Scanning is a bad thing, right? And it's scan-proofness makes the ship a good thing? If it's scan-proof, why would River have to be in cryo?
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