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Male and Female Imponderables Part Deux

POSTED BY: Tristan
UPDATED: Monday, May 15, 2006 20:33
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Friday, May 12, 2006 7:44 PM

Nothing wrong with getting carried away about a subject that you feel passionate about. The really weird thing about our relationship is when I first met her dad he didn't like me. He wanted his daughter to be with a black man even though he married a white woman. Our first meeting was uncomfortable to say the least. I can gladly say that now we are the best of friends. We are constantly at her parents house and there has been numerous occasions in which my father-in-law and I have done things with just the two of us. People can change. It just takes a lot of growing up on their parts. I'm not worried about what people say now, because I know I'm the better person.

Simon: What if he(Mal) tells you to kill me?
Zoe: (without hesitation) I kill you.

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Friday, May 12, 2006 7:50 PM

DeepGirl, the rant is totally acceptable. I was brought up color-blind, and when I moved to the South, I was a bit shocked at the attitudes down here. Granted, they are getting a bit more tolerable, but still, prejudice against loving who you love pissed me off. I have only ever dated once out of my race (white), and that was a Japanese girl in high school. Even that was kind of a no-no around here, which surprised me to no end. Love is and should be color-blind.

Ok, pardon my mini-rant.



Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Friday, May 12, 2006 8:12 PM

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Originally posted by deepgirl187:
Sadly, in our society, race probably separates us more than anything else.....

Sorry about the rant, I do tend to get carried away sometimes



Don't be sorry for the rant... really, sometimes that's what keeps me sane... a good rant can work wonders. That and primal screaming...

You're right about society... it is very sad. I've seen some ugly things in my lifetime concerning race relations. I grew up mainly in the south...Texas mostly... and the racism problem exists today... (remember Vidor?).... When i was young, i just couldn't understand the problem. I had friends of different race....black, brown & white.... but probably fewer white friends because i knew more black kids. I always thought the prejudice i saw was just the result of small town ignorance, but as i grew older and traveled around this country i was disappointed to find racism everywhere.

Maybe that's one reason i like shows like Firefly.... like you said, the idea of race is archac. Hopefully (in the real world) it won't take so long for people to get over this issue. We would all certainly be better for it.


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Saturday, May 13, 2006 3:48 AM

Wow, so much has happened since I've been gone!
Mmmmm, okay, so men being more visual I think is accurate. I have found visuals very... pleasing before, but not as much as men seem to. Oddly enough, audio stimulation almost gets to me more; a really sexy voice gets to me more than a really sexy picture. Of course there's nothing can match pure kinisthetics.
Now the inter-race question: the second girl I ever kissed was black. She was absolutely gorgeous, too. Want to talk about double taboos; and inter-racial lesbian couple! Woo-hoo! We weren't really a "couple" but you get what I'm saying. Unfortunately, it didn't work out for us; we pretty much had the one make-out and that was it. Our friends thought we were really cute together, but we didn't end up having a lot in common; she had just decided she wanted to kiss me.
Anyway, I guess the point of that little story is that if I'm attracted to someone, it doesn't matter at all what color or gender they are. It can end up mattering what creed they are, depending on just how much we clash in our beliefs, which I find very unfortunate, but there you have it. I mean, really it's the same with any kind of beliefs; I admit I just couldn't respect someone who hated Firefly, so how could I date them? And someone who honestly believed that the devil needed to be purged from me with fire... Well, you get the idea. If someone is compatible with me, though, it doesn't matter to me what they look like outside, and it shouldn't. It's shiny how many of us think that!

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:06 AM

So I just thought of a question for you shiny people here: I at one point had a boyfriend who said lust and rage felt basically the same to him. That was a little freaky to me, but apparently he's not the only one. I've known several people (only one or two of them being female) who got 'horny' when they were angry, or got their anger out with sex. I do not understand this; I've never had that response to being angry. When I'm angry I want to kick my heavy bag or scream and yell or go for a run, but I never, ever want to get it on in such a mood. So I'm wondering if anyone here might have a clue about the supposed tie between lust and anger. And am I the only one who thinks the people who experience that on a regualr basis are a little addlepated? It just don't seem right to me, nor makes any sense.

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:42 AM

Ah, PhoenixRose, that sounds a lot like something called battle-lust! It's not quite the same as anger or rage, but it's close. A bit of backstory for those that don't know:
I am a fighter. By that, I mean I fight other people with medieval implements (swords, polearms, etc). I have been an SCA fighter, a live steel Ren Faire fighter/choreographer, and a backyard, pvc-pipe weapon fighter. While fighting, adrenaline builds up in your system, the blood pounds through your veins, and all your senses are at their highest. It is a contest between two (or more) humans, and there is very little that compares to that. Ok, no, we aren't out to really kill each other or cause serious harm, but I think you get the idea. So, if you fight enough, and enjoy it, you reach a point called battle-lust. Basically, you either want to fight more, or you want to grab the nearest member of the opposite sex and go to town. No, I do not get off on pain...as a matter of fact, if I do get hurt, I am usually not thinking about sex, just trying to find the first aid kit . My wife is also a fighter; I actually trained her to be a Ren Faire fighter. She, too, experiences battle-lust. I can tell you from experience that the absolute best sex we have usually follows one of these sessions. Up until recently, we had not fought, but just got back into it this week, and already, things are phenomenal.
Sorry if that was TMI, but I felt I had to share. I know it is not the rage or anger you spoke of, but the emotions can look the same to an observer. I can say that lust and armed conflict can feel the same to me, and some othee people as well.

Does that answer the question at all?

Holding until you get back, Captain.

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 4:56 AM

Yeah, that makes sense in a way. I can see lots of adrenaline causing such an effect. I was talking about just everyday anger, though; my ex that originaly talked about it actually said "A surge of rage feels the same as a surge of lust" which I think is a little different than adrenaline building and making you a little more lusty. Maybe they're related, though. At least, it makes a little more sense to me than before.

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 10:38 AM

Hmm... I don't know if anger and lust necessarily feel the same to me, but I've noticed in the past something of a connection. I remember this one girl I was dating was very high-maintenance (which caused troubles because I tend to be quite a bit more low-key.) Anyways, I remember times when she wanted to make out and I wasn't in the mood. Wasn't terribly healthy, but alot of times I sort of acquiesced and we'd end up playing this "game" were she'd try to slip me some tongue and I'd sort of resist. Thing I noticed, though, was that while I'd be getting annoyed and such, it also turned out to be a huge turn-on. (She usually won most of those battles, actually :) I can't really say why though.

Again, not exactly the same as anger, really. More like her pushing my buttons just got me more excited.

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Saturday, May 13, 2006 12:01 PM

There's definitely a link for a lot of people between 'negative' emotions and love. Most of sadism is based around the idea of showing love by inflicting pain. However most establishment forces are incredibly against the promotion of idea; most films about sadism are censored, especially if it is about a man dominating a woman.

As long as you can tell in your mind which one is rage and which one is lust, it should be all right.

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Sunday, May 14, 2006 1:53 PM

OK, this thread needs to be revived, so I'll ask a silly little question that I am nonetheless curious about:
Men, how do you decide about facial hair? It has always confused me; I'd think it would be hot and itchy but there are men who always wear beards, and others who can't make up their minds! From my own point of view, I really don't like it very much. It has been known to chafe my delicate skin, esspecially mustaches. Are there any thoughts on this at all?

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