SerenityDay: Change the Date? VOTE NOW
POSTED BY: Hera
UPDATED: Monday, May 1, 2006 09:38
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Yeah....
uh....
I was thinking it has been solved... and oh boy.
Anyways in terms of the "infighting"... this is not much infighting... its a debate.. especially from my point of view. Hell if you want to see infighting see me over at whedonesque:P... not the greatest thing ever, trsut me..
Anyway yeah...
so.... I see nothing wrong with having a serenity day.... kicking off a serenity campaign, ending in the big damn anniversary(big darn anniversay if people dont like the damn).
So yeah... buy the dvds june 23rd, promote promote, have fun get people to check out the movie and tv in the cons...maybe get the actors to say a word or two, etc... and then buy the dvds again(for those who can afford it), on Sept 30th. OH and all htose extra dvds.. give to relatives friends, and libraries and the troops...
So I see 3 ways to participate in this campaign:
1) for people who want only june 23rd, go ahead knock yourself out...
2) for people who want only sept 30th, go ahead knock yourself out
3) for people who are impatient go for june 23rd... get all buzzed up...and then hey lets do it again , go for Spet 30th.
I am in the 3rd camp.
Btw.... I dunno where people got such an insane idea... but participating in the Serenity Summer camapign does NOT mean you boycott, or not participate in the charity screenings.
I am an organizer of one of the charity screenings and I plan to participate in Serenity Campaign too. And if you are not near a charity screening, then please may I recommend to get a shindig together on June 23rd, and collect money and send to charity. I am sure Joss would even appreciate that too.
If people participate in the two campaigns (separate...different....), then it will be great! Its even better.
Prakash
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I thought the purpose of this thread was to find a plan that makes sense to the most people. It seemed like we were doing exactly that, and then the leader comes in and says that our votes mean nothing. Don't know about the rest of you, but that does not sit well with me.
Livlass, I do appreciate that there are people willing to take the time to organize these events, but I do not like being told to fall in line just because someone is in a position of power. Where are the convincing arguments for doing this in June? I've yet to hear one. If Kaele is acting like our opinions don't matter, I'd like to hear why. I might be channeling my teenager here, but I'm too ornery to do something I don't agree with just because someone says so.
This is beside the point, and it is a distraction in this thread (is that the point?), but I don't get why we need an army to "defend" Browncoats and "attack" anything. Are the Trekkies declaring war on us? There are power dynamics at work here that are a mite disturbing.
Saying there is no fighting between the leaders of the Serenity Now screenings and the Serenity Day June 23rd camp is a real bit of denial in action. There might be emails going back and forth and there might not be name calling, but no one can tell me that there is not a lot of hostility there. I ain't dumb. Don't tell me that I'm not seeing what is so plain before my very eyes.
Politics aren't my thing, and it's too bad that the Serenity Now guy is so hostile but that's the way it is. He might not be so friendly, but he has lots of valid points. There's a lot of damage to be done by insisting on keeping June 23rd, and it seems clear from this thread that a lot of experienced people who know what they are talking about don't think that's in the best interest of Serenity Day or Browncoats at large.
I'm happy to follow if the leader has the best plan and the best interest in mind. I just ain't so sure that this is what's going on here.
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Keep it the 23rd, I would suggest that everyone donate whatever copys of firefly/Serenity they buy to the troops.
"And I think calling him that is an insult to the psychotic lowlife community."
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Hi.
Ok Servantofkushial,...I dont want to add to the "infighting"... but 11thHour has been an supporter of this movement, even if she disagrees, with how some things have been deicded or done. She is allowed to have her opinions,and in terms of her "attitude", well I guess I just see more exasperation.
Instead of "attacking" others lets just focus on the campaign, whether its june 23rd, sept 30th , or both or whatever, you pick or decide.
We need as many volunteers and helpers as possible, and while 11th Hour has not agreed with some of the things said here at least she supports it. Compared to some of the comments said by other people, she has been quite positive. We need all the help we can get.
So people please... lets not criticize each other, lets do what we can to get this thing asuccess.
Prakash
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Hi Kaele,
I suggest you tally the votes here. If indeed people are voting for June 23rd, then go for it. We are all a part of this campaign, and while I realize that's a lot of cooks over one pot, voting is the best way to clarify the issue. Everyone gets a say, and then they can't complain if the vote comes down to June 23rd in the end. And if people decide on September 30th, then they must have good reason to do so.
Now, I heard mention of another vote that some people were upset about - I missed it entirely so I don't really know. But so many people have posted in this thread, I really think it would be a good idea to listen to what they have to say.
What do you say? Can we work this out?
Julia
One day.
One mission.
One legion of Browncoats.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave.
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You mean this?
http://www.fireflyfans.net/thread.asp?b=2&t=20169
Serenity Summer Campaign for teh win!1!!
BROWNCOATS UNITE!
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Hi to you Kurya! As I stated in a different thread, I beleive people are entitled to their opinions. I don't really care if 11th Hour agrees or disagrees with what's decided or done.
My prob was the tone. As for attitude, it's a matter of perception. And I apologize for being all defensive in my previous post im just aggravated. But, my opinion counts too, even if I am not as revered as 11. So, that being said, I understand that my post didn't really help anything. I really don't want to fight with everyone, I just didn't appreciate how she kept bugging on one particular member, so like a child, I called it out. It was rude of me.
P/S- Only getting about 5 hrs sleep for the past couple weeks so I am WAY more edgy and confrontational than I normally am.
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BRIAN: Are you the Judean People's Front?
REG: Fuck off!
BRIAN: What?
REG: Judean People's Front. We're the People's Front of Judea! Judean People's Front. Cawk.
FRANCIS:Wankers.
BRIAN: Can I... join your group?
REG: No. Piss off.
BRIAN: I didn't want to sell this stuff. It's only a job. I hate the Romans as much as anybody.
REG: Schtum.
JUDITH: Are you sure?
BRIAN: Oh, dead sure. I hate the Romans already.
REG: Listen. If you really wanted to join the P.F.J., you'd have to really hate the Romans.
BRIAN: I do!
REG: Oh, yeah? How much?
BRIAN: A lot!
REG: Right. You're in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah...
JUDITH: Splitters.
P.F.J.: Splitters...
FRANCIS:And the Judean Popular People's Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
LORETTA:And the People's Front of Judea.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
REG: What?
LORETTA:The People's Front of Judea. Splitters.
REG: We're the People's Front of Judea!
LORETTA:Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
REG: People's Front! C-huh.
FRANCIS:Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
REG: He's over there.
P.F.J.: Splitter!
A.
One day.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave!
http://www.fireflyday.com/
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Quote:
Originally posted by Arabikum:
BRIAN: Are you the Judean People's Front?
REG: Fuck off!
BRIAN: What?
REG: Judean People's Front. We're the People's Front of Judea! Judean People's Front. Cawk.
FRANCIS:Wankers.
BRIAN: Can I... join your group?
REG: No. Piss off.
BRIAN: I didn't want to sell this stuff. It's only a job. I hate the Romans as much as anybody.
REG: Schtum.
JUDITH: Are you sure?
BRIAN: Oh, dead sure. I hate the Romans already.
REG: Listen. If you really wanted to join the P.F.J., you'd have to really hate the Romans.
BRIAN: I do!
REG: Oh, yeah? How much?
BRIAN: A lot!
REG: Right. You're in. Listen. The only people we hate more than the Romans are the fucking Judean People's Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah...
JUDITH: Splitters.
P.F.J.: Splitters...
FRANCIS:And the Judean Popular People's Front.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
LORETTA:And the People's Front of Judea.
P.F.J.: Yeah. Splitters. Splitters...
REG: What?
LORETTA:The People's Front of Judea. Splitters.
REG: We're the People's Front of Judea!
LORETTA:Oh. I thought we were the Popular Front.
REG: People's Front! C-huh.
FRANCIS:Whatever happened to the Popular Front, Reg?
REG: He's over there.
P.F.J.: Splitter!
A.
One day.
One mission.
One army of Browncoats.
On June 23rd, we aim to misbehave!
http://www.fireflyday.com/
LOL! And when I write lol, I mean lol! So, lol!
Serenity Summer Campaign for teh win!1!!
BROWNCOATS UNITE!
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Quote:
Originally posted by Succatash:
I vote keep it.
Fuck the elite professional fans at Whedonesque.
I love all the enthusiasm here at FFF and don't let anyone tell you it's bad for fandom. That's bullshit.
Nobody owns June 23, nobody is a better fan than anyone else. Don't cave in to "save the fandom" crap, that is ridiculous. As if you suddenly have to follow a bunch of rules because you love the show and want to share it with others.
The negative, condencending attitude in that Whedonesque thread really annoys me. It's THE site for Joss news though, and Joss frequently posts there himself, which is damn cool. But the people who post there aren't better fans than anyone else, and they act like they're in charge of all Joss fan projects or something. I say, don't give in to that shit.
My sentiments exactly.
We were NOT the ones to start the issue.
It's them who made an issue of it.
I didn't like the attitude, I don't like people who tells me what I should do/think in that way.
The project was started independently and with enthusiasm, and we had every right to keep it going that way.
It's no good that we "bow" to them, I think I won't even take part in the event anymore.
I certainly am a browncoat, but first I am a proud and free mind.
I would NEVER have changed the date.
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