Watching Voyager on the Borg Collection; I forgot how good that show could be...
POSTED BY: chrisisall
UPDATED: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 15:18
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I mainly liked DS9 for its "space-gothic" design. More character-driven than the other series.
Quote:Nitpick: "The Killing Game."
Originally posted by Arcadia:
My favoties episodes, I think, are still "The Kill Gaming 1 & 2", where hirogens shoot people in the holodeck.
"The Kill Gaming" makes me think of the Hirogen and Voyagers all fragging over a Counterstrike server.
(Okay, granted that was kinda the plot, but still.)Exactly how does one say "FOAD haxxor n00bs!!!111!!" in Hirogen anyway. . .
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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One fo my favorite episodes of the series that I don't think has been mentioned yet was episode 4x02, "The Gift". Just that one tiny moment in the prologue where she says her normal "we" Borg stuff and then stops and then says "Where are the others, I can't hear them." The way she says that, with the tiniest hint of fear in it just sends chills up your spine. You realize that this is a big fucking deal when you see a Borg show fear.
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"I think one of the greatest things about modern America is the computerization of medical records. As a volunteer sheriff, I can look up anyone's psychiatric records and their surgical histories. Yeast infections. There are a huge number of yeast infections in this county. Probably...because we're down river...from that old bread factory."
Dwight - The Office - 209 - E-mail Surveillance
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Originally posted by chrisisall:
but a main character died for no good reason (they wanted off the series), and the ending sucked.
Died, but after six seasons of being on the show... ;)
I thought the finale was solid enough, if not great. The Voyager finale was much worse.
I think Voyager had the best premise of all the ST shows, but they didn't really do that good a job with it. There were definitely some great eps--Equinox is my favourite--but they in the vast minority.
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Quote:You're right, and it made me cry, I'll admit, but the finale was so open-ended!
Originally posted by Grounded:
Died, but after six seasons of being on the show... ;)
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He's dead, or lost or whatever, part of...WHAT? Did he fufill the prophesy...How?
Never to see his son again...WTF?
Did they HAVE to 2001 it?
I kept waiting for a TV movie to tie things up!
(I know, rant,rant,rant).
Maybe I just didn't 'get' it.
And only saw it once Chrisisall
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Yes, buy the boxed sets of Voyager. If you're like my husband and myself, you will watch them over and over again. Our favorite episodes begin with the arrival of Seven-of-Nine, and not just because Jeri Ryan fills out those high-heels and spandex! She gives us the first back-story of the Borg, being assimilated as a young child -- she "was" Borg! So many questions were answered, in my view. Her plaintive cries when she was cut off from the collective touched my "mommy nerve" -- she was cut off from her family. She added so much to the show, to the story-lines, to the Borg history. (The episode where she "meets" her father makes my hair literally stand up on end!)
Although, Janeway as a Borg is rather unsettling!
By the way, "Hi" to Reginaroadie. Did you get the job for the summer, the good one?
Thanks for the nudge -- I'm off to watch Voyager!
P.S. We also watch "Enterprise" again and again, please no throwing of fruits and vegetables!
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"old enough to BE in Jayne's bunk!"
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Star Trek started burning itself out with VOY, a.k.a. Autopilot Trek. Lazy writing, shallow characterisations with archetypes instead of individuals, logical inconsistencies, technobabble fetishism...just bleh. I guess the producers thought people would tune in just because it was Trek. They were right but did it come around in the end, leaving a stagnated franchise nobody except the hardcore fans is interested in anymore.
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Jesus was a spineless pinko-commie pacifist
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Quote:Rese, just saw the final ep of Voyager (For the first time- if you can believe it...) and to all who don't like it:
Originally posted by rese:
Thanks for the nudge -- I'm off to watch Voyager!
!While it had possible paradoxes waiting to blow holes in the space-time continuum, the story was quite emotionally satisfying. I don't even see time as working on a linear thing in the Trek universe, and I won't question it, anymore than I want to scrutinize why Earth couldn't have just been terraformed along with Mars in the Firefly 'Verse.
Bottom line; Voyager was a GOOD show.
Chrisisall of 9
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Yeah, I love Voyager. I got the complete series on DVD about a year ago with some of my tax refund. I definitely like how the crew is all alone in the Delta Quadrant, stuck with a mixed crew of Starfleet and Maquis, finding themselves in situations where it might be better just to abandon their Starfleet ways. Because of that, the show seemed more real.
I liked the Kes years too. I try not to pick 7 or Kes, since they're too different to compare. I can say that 7 was easy on the eyes in her bodysuits...but that's neither here nor there.
I really only own two TV series on DVD...Voyager and Firefly (not counting Band of Brothers, that's more like a miniseries). I think that's a testament to Voyager's quality (in my mind at least). Now if I can find the money to get Battlestar Galactica...
"All I got is a red guitar, three chords, and the truth...the rest is up to you"
--Bono
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Re: DS9
Quote:DS9's finale was just about perfect IMHO: it ended the story, but left the universe and the characters at the cusp of a new chapter (unlike the Voyager finale, that ended with the sound of a guillotine).
Originally posted by chrisisall:
but the finale was so open-ended!Select to view spoiler:
He's dead, or lost or whatever, part of...WHAT? Did he fufill the prophesy...How?
Never to see his son again...WTF?
Did they HAVE to 2001 it?
I kept waiting for a TV movie to tie things up!
(I know, rant,rant,rant).
Spoilered 'cause you did:
Select to view spoiler:
And Sisko's not dead, he's joined the Prophets inside the Celestial Temple (i.e., the wormhole). Dukat and Winn are likely dead, or possibly fused with the Pagh Wraiths, all of them still trapped inside the Fire Caves.
What happened was that Sisko sacrificed his body to re-seal the Fire Caves, where the Pagh Wraiths were trapped. Dukat and Winn had been attempting to free the Wraiths, who would destroy/enslave Bajor and probably the Wormhole, ending up as perhaps a greater threat than the Dominion. Sisko saved the galaxy (or at least Bajor).
The implication is that Sisko will return eventually --it's been established that the Prophets can create/destroy physical matter (the Orbs, Sisko's mother, the Dominion fleet, etc).
If you're one for reading, you may want to check out DS9: Unity, by S.D. Perry. It's DS9's 10th-anniversary celebration, set about half-a-year after the finale, and featuring the return of several TV characters who left the station. It also completely reshuffles the status quo of the DS9/Bajor environment.
('Course, this might make you want to backtrack to see all that happened between the finale and Unity: a new crew [every bit as varied and complex as the last], civil unrest among the Klingons and Bajorans, a new Starfleet Admiral with oblique ties to the original series, A Jem'Hadar "ambassador," Kira's religious crisis, and a four-part sub-series that's basically the Defiant doing a Voyager impression in the unexplored reaches of the Gamma Quadrant.)
There's also Rising Son, also by S.D. Perry, which chronicles Jake's quest to "rescue" his father --it's really cool, like a Star Trek version of Firefly (Jake signs on to a small tramp freighter and wanders through the Gamma Quadrant).
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We applied the cortical electrodes but were unable to get a neural reaction from either patient.
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You know, maybe I wrote off the finale of DS9 'cause it made me sad, not 'cause it wasn't good.
Sad=sucks to me most times.
Still loved Voyager's end though. I like closure.
Seeing Voyager fly over the Golden Gate was finer than Badger's hat.
Chrisisall, a doctor, not a doorstop
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