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who should be new pilot of serenity?

POSTED BY: Stubbs
UPDATED: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 05:46
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Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:50 PM

I think Jayne’s little brother (if he has one, can’t remember but this whole post relies on the fact he does) would make the perfect new pilot for a number of reasons.

• He’d pretty much be the opposite to Jayne – He is quite smart (He went to school, got into flight school etc).
• He would be the younger smartarse brother who can wind Jayne up in flash.
• He & Jayne never really got along but spending time together on Serenity could see that change (or not, whatever helps the story)
• This could lead to the more noble aspect of Jayne appear if his little brother was ever in serious trouble etc
• He could flirt with Kaylee, winding Simon up (endearing himself to Jayne)
• He could flirt with River, winding Simon up (endearing himself to Jayne)
• He could try to flirt with Inara, getting shot down like Mal used to pushing Mal to finally tell Inara how he feels to stop this new kid from trying his luck (Inara could use this to make Mal jealous but I think we’re beyond that stage with these two)
• Zoë would immediately dislike him for trying to replace wash, causing tension between them (good for a few episodes. E.g. where they get stuck and have to work together to get out of it)
• Mal may see some of Tracy or even himself in him, which may want Mal to keep him around

The more I think about it the more I think it works. There are more reasons for it coming to me but that will do for now.

What does everyone think?

MrShinyVerse


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Tuesday, May 15, 2007 3:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RiveR6213:
The new pilot should be a sarcastic, wise cracking, smarty pants, ex-companion guy named "Zeek Fleemings" that the Firefly crew picks up during an adventure they are having on the moon called "White Fall." And of course he's gay. He's a male version companion that went wrong, and decided that the companion life was not for him and he went out and explored the 'verse and got stuck on White Fall.

-River




I like this idea. *G* He and Inara would get on fabulously.

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Thursday, May 17, 2007 4:06 PM

I think we are all forgeting that this is really up to Mal, not Joss
What would Mal do in terms of determining the need for a new pilot of Serenity? The ending of the BDM pretty much sets up the stage for this. His dialogue with River is the 'passing of the torch', there can be no question about that. We all know that River has the aptitude and physical skills to be a great pilot, perhaps even better than Wash, with her psychic abilities. We also know that she demonstrates the 'love' for Serenity that Mal says is so important, based on her actions and dialogue in 'Objects in Space'. She 'becomes' Serenity for crying out loud!
Mal is very straight forward, without much sentiment, and will do what is best for 'his' ship in order to get the job done and 'keep flying'. I honestly do not feel that he will hold any prolonged sorrow for the missing Wash and will expect that Zoe will eventually need to 'get over it'. "Will she hold together?" "She's tore up plenty, but she'll fly true." "Could be bumpy." "Always is." I take this exchange to mean that Zoe is of course still feeling hurt but that she will get past the loss of Wash and continue her job on Serenity and her devotion to her captain. I also take it to mean that Mal expects her too. Zoe can go on without Wash. If Zoe can go on without Wash, so can Serenity.
Of course, 'coin' will have a major part to play as well in Mal's eyes in determining the need for a new pilot.
Mal will not hire a new pilot to replace Wash, once its determined that River can fly the ship with amazing 'aptitude'. A new pilot would be an expense that Mal would not consider. Why split the profits one more way when its not needed?
Now that River's mental and physical abilities are exposed, she will obviously need to be more than just the pilot of Serenity to fulfill her full potential as a character. If River is needed for any particular job or 'killer woman/reader' mission, Inara can be the one to bring Serenity to and fro when pick up is needed. That's no brainer flying. If quick, superfandango escape/evasive flying is needed, River simply kicks Inara out of the seat and takes over. My guess is that even Zoe will learn how to pilot the ship for simple manuevers and her ocassional sitting in 'Wash's' seat can provide for powerful 'rememberances' (even if they are simply portrayed in the look on Zoe's face) and possible flashback scenes, like those in 'Out of Gas'.
As much as I would love to see Wash back, I think crazy incarnations such as clones or ghosts, would only serve to hurt Firefly/Serenity more than help it.
Now my take on any future 'Firefly' TV will center on 'pre' Serenity adventures. I think Joss has mentioned this before? This will allow the entire crew to come back on board and address all the storylines Joss originally had the intention of exploring in more depth, ie Blue Sun, Book's past, ect..
If there is a Serenity movie 'sequel', I think we'll see that 'two hands of blue/Blue Sun', the true entity behind River's 'project', will still be trying to get to River for reasons we still yet don't know. We know the Alliance was after River for her potential knowledge of "covert and military operations" which is why they sent the Operative, but do we really know why the "two hands of blue" guys were after her?
Maybe in this sequel the crew will come across another child like River that manages to escape the project and pleas for help in rescuing the other children being tested/experimented on. This would be a 'cause' Mal would find worthy of risking his ship and crew on. Of course River would desperately want to help and perhaps get a bit of revenge/pay back as well. It would be the final act that would allow his ship and crew, River included, to go about their lives without looking over their shoulders.
I can foresee a major plan on the crew's part to infiltrate Blue Sun and expose them. This will give us a chance to see the true genius of Simon and River, the tenacity of Mal, the devotion of Zoe, the mechanical genius of Kailey, and of course

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Monday, June 11, 2007 8:37 PM

I think both River and Mal would pilot Serenity.

I can imagine it being the futuristic equivalent to calling "Shotgun" when getting into a car.

Plus it would make for some great Lethal Weapon inspired arguements on who gets to drive.

River: I'm flying!

Mal: I'm flying!

River: I can kill you with my mind!

Mal: You're flying!

Shun-SHENG duh gao-WAHN

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Tuesday, June 26, 2007 5:46 AM

My thought is that they'd probably get some new characters. Probably a new pilot, maybe a cook or something? I doubt that the new pilot would be "the funny one" to replace Wash... it would just be too predictable. Plus, for plot purposes, it would create some great tension if the new pilot was totally different, because Zoe might be resentful. Who knows?

Also, I think in the event of the continuance of the series, they really should incorporate more Asian actors, as was already mentioned above... I mean... there's so much emphasis on Chinese culture and hardly any appearance of Chinese people at all. Seems strange, is all.

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