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The best villains in firefly- who gets your vote?

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:11 PM

For my money, it's Saffron. She is so manipulative and hilarious! She's the best kind of villian because you seem to be rooting for her, even when you know she's a complete liar and a bit of a sociopath. Jubal would have to be my second favorite, he's just creepy.

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:44 PM

If we’re talking only about “Firefly,” which I think we are, Jubal Early gets my vote. Smart, scary, philosophical, and more than a little nuts--he’s got it all.

But if we threw in the BDM, it’s the Operative, hands down. “Secrets are not my concern. Keeping them is.”

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:20 PM

I'm not saying he's my all-time favorite, but how's about a little shout-out for Crow?

He at least had the most memorable comeuppance of any of our BDH's antagonists. He even shares famous-last-words honors with Early.


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"I know Jubal Early is alive." -- Joss Whedon

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 7:34 PM

A lot of people have been up in arms about what Early said to Kaylee. Everything he did aboard Serenity was for one purpose: to get at River. I don't believe he had any intention of harming Kaylee. He just needed to scare her so much that she wouldn't try to hinder him. From what Joss said in the commentary Early was intuitive to the point of almost being psychic. Therefore he has an understanding of how to best deal with each crew member. Remember, he could have killed anyone on board but he did not. He knocks out Mal, then locks the majority of the crew in their quarters. He goes on to scare Kaylee in the worst way he can and later uses her to gain Simon's compliance. Everything he did was calculated to get at River with the least amount of resistance as possible. Not the actions of a nice man but certain not the worst villain our BDH have encountered.

My vote goes to Niska. That man is truly evil. Anyone would torture someone to death only to revive him with the sole purpose of making him suffer further is a bad MF.

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 8:34 PM

I vote for Saffron, followed closely by Early.


I can kill you with my brian.

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 9:23 PM

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I don't believe he had any intention of harming Kaylee.


I respectfully disagree. Jubal didn't hurt the crew as much as he could have, but he was still an evil, nasty person who I think would have enjoyed hurting them very much. He says to Simon that he would "take no pleasure" in hurting Kaylee, but River sees right through this, letting us know just how depraved he really is.

Jubal says he only hurts people "when the job requires it", but River lets us know that this isn't true. "It's why you took the job." She makes it very clear that Jubal has been hurting things since childhood - the description of how he killed the dog that didn't like him and "cleaned up after" is downright disturbing. Remember too that in that scene we get a glimpse of the monster under that calm exterior, when we see Jubal's calm face intercut with his true reaction to River's words.

I think Jubal was determained to get River and his reward, but make no mistake - he would have had no qualms about hurting Kaylee. He would have enjoyed it.





I really don't like him!



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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:25 PM

He may not be the worst villian, but he is the one I hate the most, yet I don't know his name. He is the Captain that shot Mal in "Out of gas". I even tried to listen to it, and I would like to see that guy get what he deserved.

AM I NOT MERCIFUL?!?!?!?

Tee Hee

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JCW
Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:35 PM

...hands of blue

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:37 PM

Niska, without a doubt.

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:49 PM

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Originally posted by Persephone736:
Niska, without a doubt.


Agreed. There's one line that does it for me. It goes something like:

"My wife's nephew. I get talking to at dinner but this is unavoidable."

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I'll rape you to death.
I'll eat your flesh.
I'll sew your skin into my clothes.
If you're very very lucky, I'll do it in that order - TheReaver

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